Comments on: Complete 8.6 MM table

By: Rahl

Rahl — Tue, 18 Jun 2013 02:54:29 +0000

The 8.6 MM table is pathetic.

No matter: There’s a good chance that after WG sells out to Microsoft, they (Microsoft) will kill the PC end of WOT anyway and just keep the XBOX version.

By: DasNiveau

DasNiveau — Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:08:12 +0000

They want the artys to be fine tanks for its tiers after the nerf. No special MM anymore. My overall damage from the testservers was on par with the other tanks of my tier. But the 1Hit posibility is still scary. 210mm GW Tiger (P) vs T-34-85 …. still a bad thought

By: martinez

martinez — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 18:50:55 +0000

Use it as scout!

By: 3BAC

3BAC — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:36:24 +0000

I’ve never seen that be the case. SPG players, like tankers, see a quick kill and they go for it. I don’t usually bother unless I have a shot aimed and ready, and my “spotter” is in trouble. This way of thinking may be why WG misunderstands player bias against arty.

By: 3BAC

3BAC — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:32:54 +0000

You captured my thought very well. The only exception is that I don’t think the Tier 2 SPGs should be any different than for the tanks at its tier. Given the limited maps they play on, and the stats for those arty, tier 2 SPGs don’t have significant influence. As you have it, if a tier 2 tank platoons with a tier 2 arty, it could push them up into a match where neither of them could really contribute. At worst, tier 2 SPGs should be just one battle tier (Battle Tier 3).

By: Sunshine

Sunshine — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:30:38 +0000

IS-6′s 217 pen APCR is near BS when facing tanks like E-75, but it does have advantages over 112. IMO IS-6 has better armor than 112 does (against 175mm pen premium vehicles), it will suffer less damage when it has to cross an area with enemies waiting to shoot its side. The IS-6 will also survive longer when surrounded by a flood of noobs (in Type 59′s maybe, the Type has never leaved the shop here in China). Also, the lower glacis of 112 will be easier to penetrate than IS-6′s driver’s hatch.

But yes, there is more choices of playstyle when driving 112, you can either use high income “farming mode” or the 300mm pen “monster mode”, and you don’t even need to switch to other vehicles to farm in order to keep your economic balance! I can see your point now…

Well for me, perhaps I should be more concerned about this question: when will the “gold ammo for silver” feature be implemented on the Chinese server? There were rumors saying that this feature has always been in testing status (and that all players outside China has become testers), while the test will be completed(proving a success) with the introduction of 0.8.6. Could anyone give some details about that statement? Is there some truth in it or it’s just rumor?

By: Sunshine

Sunshine — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:55:51 +0000

Regarding the fact that some people may use only gold ammo in 112 and still earn silver, I suppose these players can also earn silver in their t8 non-premium vehicles (IS-3, King Tiger, etc.). The profitability of a t8 premium firing gold ammo bought with the credits it earned wouldn’t be better than a t8 non-premiun firing regular ammo. So why bother buying a prem that doesn’t profit (when played in your preferred style?) Because it’s OP? Well with its lower glacis weakzone (not “weakspot”), as I’ve mentioned before, it’s not as OP as in your imaginations.

By: Stieger11

Stieger11 — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:36:48 +0000

To tell the truth, I don’t really have heavily armored tanks between T6-T9 (like E75 or ST-I – which can meet 112) so I won’t really feel the “pain” of its HEAT shells… (I know my tanks in the garage can be penetrated even with 200-250 mm pen… let alone 300)

I just compare it to my IS-6 (and I’m a little bit envy…) even with the 217 pen of APCR I must aim on weakspots, and possibly ding on some targets despite every effort… I think it’s fine for a T8 prem – so players can’t “exploit” the lighter MM & higher income & premium ammo & still earn credits combo.
But with 300 pen… literally there is nothing what I can’t pen. And the two tanks – IS-6 and 112 – are almost the same, same MM, probably similar price and income… so just why? (I’m agree on that tanks shouldn’t be balanced by their prem ammo – but there should be a limit)

When they will see the problem, what 112 may cause… (who knows? maybe it become the next “Type59-phenomenon”?) And maybe then they want to do something… you know what is happening when WG wanna change something on premium tanks…

By: nyan cat

nyan cat — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:18:57 +0000

Aye, HEAT won’t be as good as it is now. Still, those 35mm can make a difference in some occasions and if the frontal armor is really as good as the 113 has, it is somewhat OP for a tier VIII with preferential MM. I don’t think it’s as good as some say, though. It can be destroyed, it does not fire 30 shots per minute and it most definitely isn’t a tank that can hit weakspots from other side of a map…

By: Repofox .

Repofox . — Wed, 12 Jun 2013 12:54:15 +0000

Hahaha. Yeah.
I’m currently grinding through the infamous JagdPanzer IV and it is just awful.

Good luck when MM puts you in tier 8 or even 7 battles…