Comments on: 0.8.6 MM weight table

By: Piotr Kordy

Piotr Kordy — Tue, 25 Jun 2013 09:13:53 +0000

Hmm, looking at vehicle.xml from res/scripts/item_defs/vehicles/common I got these values:
for light/medium/AT-SPG 2.0 3.0 5.0 8.0 12.0 18.0 27.0 40.0 60.0 100.0
for heavy/SPG 2.4 3.6 6.0 9.6 14.4 21.6 32.0 48.0 72.0 120.0
Exceptions:
ussr:T-54 72.0
usa:M46_Patton 72.0
germany:E-50 72.0
ussr:Object_704 72.0
germany:JagdTiger 72.0
usa:T95 72.0
germany:H39_captured 7.0
ussr:ISU-152 48.0
germany:Ferdinand 48.0
usa:T28 48.0
ussr:T_50_2 21.6
germany:VK2801 21.6
usa:M24_Chaffee 21.6
usa:T28_Prototype 48.0
usa:T30 72.0
germany:JagdTiger_SdKfz_185 48.0
france:AMX_AC_Mle1948 48.0
france:AMX50_Foch 72.0
germany:JagdPantherII 48.0
germany:JagdPz_E100 120.0
germany:E50_Ausf_M 120.0
usa:T110E4 120.0
usa:T110E3 120.0
usa:M48A1 120.0
ussr:Object268 120.0
ussr:T62A 120.0
france:AMX_50Fosh_155 120.0
france:Bat_Chatillon25t 120.0
france:Lorraine40t 72.0
ussr:SU-101 48.0
ussr:SU122_54 72.0
ussr:Object263 120.0
uk:GB24_Centurion_Mk3 72.0
uk:GB70_FV4202_105 120.0
usa:T54E1 72.0
usa:T69 48.0
usa:Pershing 48.0
china:Ch01_Type59 48.0
china:Ch01_Type59_Gold 48.0
uk:GB22_Comet 32.4
uk:GB71_AT_15A 32.4
usa:Sherman_Jumbo 21.6
china:Ch17_WZ131_1_WZ132 48.0
china:Ch05_T34_2 48.0
china:Ch18_WZ-120 72.0
china:Ch19_121 120.0
uk:GB72_AT15 48.0
uk:GB32_Tortoise 72.0
uk:GB48_FV215b_183 120.0
france:ELC_AMX 14.4
germany:VK1602 14.4
france:AMX_12t 21.6
usa:T21 21.6
china:Ch15_59_16 21.6
france:AMX_13_75 32.4
usa:T71 32.4
china:Ch16_WZ_131 32.4
china:Ch02_Type62 32.4
france:AMX_13_90 48.0
germany:Auf_Panther 32.4
germany:VK3002DB 32.4
germany:Indien_Panzer 48.0
germany:Pro_Ag_A 72.0
germany:Leopard1 120.0
ussr:Object_907 120.0
usa:M60 120.0
germany:E-25 32.4

Is anybody able to determine if the table in the post or the data in the file are correct?

By: Medjed

Medjed — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 18:33:19 +0000

Imo gold ammo is not that big of a problem in T2 battles since only seal clubbers tend to use it. What killed H38 are new high pen/dmg tanks like brits, Tetrarch have monster gun and even MS-1 have gun that pens with ease H38….right now that tank is nothing special at all…everything pens it and it slow as shit thus making it very hard to play.

By: Misfire42

Misfire42 — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:59:21 +0000

Is this official? I’m asking because the wiki doesn’t have very good information about MM weight (read: barely any), and if it is official I’d love to add it.

By: energycore

energycore — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:30:14 +0000

i’m pretty sure what killed the 38H was gold ammo for credits.

I’m not complaining though, the thing still carries hard, just not as hard and you have to be more conservative

By: energycore

energycore — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:28:27 +0000

companies are a complete different realm where teams are running close to optimal setups. And gameplay wise, i’d say the IS-3 is 44% better than a T20 definitely

By: energycore

energycore — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 17:27:13 +0000

the marder nerfs made it unplayable for me. and that’s after 1.1k games on it

By: ammarmar

ammarmar — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:57:17 +0000

Marder was nerfed, so it’s not as easy as it was to kill KV-1 tanks with it. Which was GOOD, seeing as KV-1 is a heavy tanks 2 tiers higher than Marder.

But in its tier, Marder is still a killing machine. Hell, any tier II TD will dispatch micromaus with ease, and they have less than HALF weight according to the chart…

By: stavro375

stavro375 — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:00:03 +0000

Wasn’t the marder nerfed into oblivion a while ago?

By: stavro375

stavro375 — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:59:45 +0000

Clearly someone at WG was drunk when they assigned the tier 4 weights.

Not that I’m complaining that my Matilda gets *slightly* better mm than B1 (at expense of seeing tier 6 tanks)

By: Darkmancer

Darkmancer — Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:03:49 +0000

While it’s opp for its tier 7 points does seem OTT especially as tier 3 stuff is set at 5 points.