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		<title>By: Skychan</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/15/15-8-2013-part-2/#comment-26166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skychan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 20:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=610&amp;tanktype=0&amp;nation=0&amp;premium=0&amp;team=0&amp;battles=1000&amp;groupby=0&amp;fieldname=experience_per_minute

Arty needs all the help it can get.  Note that they are at the absolute bottom on XP per minute.  I&#039;m not arguing to give them more power, just even out the XP gained for them.   Almost every other tank can do it&#039;s own spotting.  IF Arty is doing so there is something WRONG not something right going on.]]></description>
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<p>Arty needs all the help it can get.  Note that they are at the absolute bottom on XP per minute.  I&#8217;m not arguing to give them more power, just even out the XP gained for them.   Almost every other tank can do it&#8217;s own spotting.  IF Arty is doing so there is something WRONG not something right going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/15/15-8-2013-part-2/#comment-22704</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A miserable pile of secrets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A miserable pile of secrets.</p>
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		<title>By: [Sammelthread] World of Tanks - Seite 2572</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[[Sammelthread] World of Tanks - Seite 2572]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Tiger with a 75mm autoloader)    Und     - unguided rocket tanks will be implemented into WoT    15.8.2013 &#8211; part 2 &#124; For The Record          Die PCGH-Bastler - Vor-Ort-Hilfe bei Montage und Problemen           [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tiger with a 75mm autoloader)    Und     &#8211; unguided rocket tanks will be implemented into WoT    15.8.2013 &#8211; part 2 | For The Record          Die PCGH-Bastler &#8211; Vor-Ort-Hilfe bei Montage und Problemen           [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CurseedShadows</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/15/15-8-2013-part-2/#comment-22286</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But still normal 3,54&quot; AP M77 is the same as in 90mm M3 gun so the pen is only 10 mm better. Germans have special new shells with bigger propellant for they KwK 43 gun. Amerian have only 2 90mm t15e1 guns on two SP during WW2 (One on desert and second in Europe) so they could use special ammo insted of standard AP shells. 

Hee are propertys of 90mm M3 gun shells:

http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/90-mm-ammunition/

Unfortunately, there is a A.P.C.-T., M82 instead of a M77 but velocity is 2 800 f/s = 853,44 m/s (better than KwK 36 ca 750 m/s but worse than KwK 43 1000 m/s). KT with huge turret can use more propellant for one shot than SP with smaller turret.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But still normal 3,54&#8243; AP M77 is the same as in 90mm M3 gun so the pen is only 10 mm better. Germans have special new shells with bigger propellant for they KwK 43 gun. Amerian have only 2 90mm t15e1 guns on two SP during WW2 (One on desert and second in Europe) so they could use special ammo insted of standard AP shells. </p>
<p>Hee are propertys of 90mm M3 gun shells:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/90-mm-ammunition/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lonesentry.com/manuals/90-mm-ammunition/</a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, there is a A.P.C.-T., M82 instead of a M77 but velocity is 2 800 f/s = 853,44 m/s (better than KwK 36 ca 750 m/s but worse than KwK 43 1000 m/s). KT with huge turret can use more propellant for one shot than SP with smaller turret.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 19:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an medium tank player - it seems that it isn&#039;t &quot;that&quot; easy, I used to spot a lot, right now it&#039;s more or less senseless, as the only arty we can get will shot once per minute and miss.
But hey &quot;muh heavy tank is countered by arty&quot; or rather &quot;fucking scissors, they beat me, rock&#039;s okay ~ regards paper&quot;.
Some nerf was needed but that was too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an medium tank player &#8211; it seems that it isn&#8217;t &#8220;that&#8221; easy, I used to spot a lot, right now it&#8217;s more or less senseless, as the only arty we can get will shot once per minute and miss.<br />
But hey &#8220;muh heavy tank is countered by arty&#8221; or rather &#8220;fucking scissors, they beat me, rock&#8217;s okay ~ regards paper&#8221;.<br />
Some nerf was needed but that was too much.</p>
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		<title>By: 2goXD</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well i really have to say that i see less camping since 8.6 and i almost dont think about arty if there arnt at least 3 of them (almost!)
I presonally find game More enjoyable now... 3-4 artyes (per team) games are rare, camping because of arty almost non existable. 
Now i can say i play game called  world of Tanks... before 8.6 game was unplayable from tier 7 or 8+ when there were every second game 4 atrtyes on each side and they were able to decide where they are going to shoot you... like playing TD from air
No offense]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i really have to say that i see less camping since 8.6 and i almost dont think about arty if there arnt at least 3 of them (almost!)<br />
I presonally find game More enjoyable now&#8230; 3-4 artyes (per team) games are rare, camping because of arty almost non existable.<br />
Now i can say i play game called  world of Tanks&#8230; before 8.6 game was unplayable from tier 7 or 8+ when there were every second game 4 atrtyes on each side and they were able to decide where they are going to shoot you&#8230; like playing TD from air<br />
No offense</p>
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		<title>By: CurseedShadows</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry somehow i thinkt a L81 not L71 my mistake. Too much BEER :P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry somehow i thinkt a L81 not L71 my mistake. Too much BEER :P</p>
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		<title>By: CurseedShadows</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CurseedShadows]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry somehow i thinkt a L81 not L71 my mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry somehow i thinkt a L81 not L71 my mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 16:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course they must be up gunned over their real life counterparts, how else do you want T62 stand a chance to M1? Oh, i meant Tiger II against M60 for example... Yep, if someone gets lucky, they can kill tier 10 in tier 2 (Perhaps some premium ammo on a TD against paper tank with a shot to its rear?) Anyway, enough with the nonsense.

Like if they couldnt give Tiger I just short 88 as top gun, reduce HP, give it maybe even worse engine and make it tier 6; like if that wouldnt be almost just alike VK3601H except additional 20mm side armor IIRC; and everybody would be happy.... Tiger I would accually meet T34 and M4 like the VK does while it KVS would still pen it frontaly and Tiger I could ding it. And about the turret; even on VK you aim for hatch, so would you on Tiger I]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course they must be up gunned over their real life counterparts, how else do you want T62 stand a chance to M1? Oh, i meant Tiger II against M60 for example&#8230; Yep, if someone gets lucky, they can kill tier 10 in tier 2 (Perhaps some premium ammo on a TD against paper tank with a shot to its rear?) Anyway, enough with the nonsense.</p>
<p>Like if they couldnt give Tiger I just short 88 as top gun, reduce HP, give it maybe even worse engine and make it tier 6; like if that wouldnt be almost just alike VK3601H except additional 20mm side armor IIRC; and everybody would be happy&#8230;. Tiger I would accually meet T34 and M4 like the VK does while it KVS would still pen it frontaly and Tiger I could ding it. And about the turret; even on VK you aim for hatch, so would you on Tiger I</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Aug 2013 15:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why? FV can do it already... at least sometimes :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why? FV can do it already&#8230; at least sometimes :)</p>
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