Comments on: Panzer Answers: Round 1

By: rossmum

rossmum — Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:39:25 +0000

The Germans discovered rather quickly that the long barrels of their late-war tank guns were very unsuitable for stabilisation. Instead, a combined solution was investigated, using a stereoscopic rangefinder (the “ears” or “eyeballs” on many tanks in the game, not just German ones either) which would be stabilised itself and then an electrical contact that would fire the gun when its point of aim and that of the stabilised sight coincided.

More than the issue of on the move fire, the Germans began exploring this route because gunner fatigue while observing through a jittery magnified sight was getting to be a problem.

By: Zarax

Zarax — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:16:43 +0000

I try to not discuss other posters here, at worst SilentStalker should be the one moderating.
In any case, EE always brought sources to back his posts, the way he writes is subjective to people’s liking but keep in mind many eastern europeans tends to talk and write in a pretty direct and passionate way.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:49:00 +0000

+1 Thx zarax, nice read as always.

But i have one request to you: please dont develop like EE, his first posts were also a pleasure to read (something from the soviet perspective) but in the last time he writes like a 15 year old soviet fanboy.

By: Zarax

Zarax — Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:41:42 +0000

The main problem is that it would have crippled traverse and gun depression, as the extra long breech would have to fit in a smaller case-mate extension, transforming the tank into armored artillery in Wa Pruef 6 words.

By: Captian Nemo

Captian Nemo — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:52:55 +0000

Yah I had the same problem (sources) the last time I looked into it.

By: NagaSadow

NagaSadow — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:50:43 +0000

Yes, as already mentioned in Zaraks post. It was one of Krupps proposals from November(?) 1944 to outfit the Jagdtiger with the L/66. The proposal was turned down as the additional weight would have overburdened the chassis. Also IIRC the L/55 itself was never “pushed” to the real limit in terms of achievable v/max as there was problem with round shattering upon impact that wasn’t solved before the war ended. So upgunning would have been kind of pointless anyway.

By: walliser

walliser — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:22:56 +0000

so it was basically just a jagdtiger mounting a 12,8cm PAK L/66?

but wasn’t the actual gun mounted on them a 12,8 cm PAK 44 L/55?

ps: auch deutsch :)

By: NagaSadow

NagaSadow — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:59:57 +0000

Well, ebenfalls Deutscher hier *lol*

I was wrong, it wasn’t Krupp but Henschel:
“Tiger-Jäger (Tiger-Ausführung B)” (14th May 1943)

But also the Waffenamt and WaPrüf 6:
“12,8 cm Pz. Jäger auf Fahrgestell Tiger H (Tigerjäger)” (12th April 1943)
“12,8 cm Tiger-Jäger” (2nd October 1943)

By: Zarax

Zarax — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:59:56 +0000

30 and 37mm for sure, allegedly 50, 75 and 88mm but I’m still trying to find sources

By: w_p

w_p — Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:54:19 +0000

I don’t know anything about tanks, but the name “Tiger-Jäger” seems kind of strange to me as a German. “Jagdtiger” means a tiger that is hunting, while “Tiger-Jäger” means a hunter who hunts for tiger (which makes no sense because its their own tank). Also the dash wasn’t used much (if even at all) in the German language at these times.