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	<title>Comments on: 8.8 VK3601H and Tiger mantlet changes</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-28832</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2013 03:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A big no, L70 is still worse than konish]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big no, L70 is still worse than konish</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so if they&#039;re removing command cupola weakspots, does that mean t29 and t32 can become unstoppable hull down?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so if they&#8217;re removing command cupola weakspots, does that mean t29 and t32 can become unstoppable hull down?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 13:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder what happen to the Soviet 76mm S54 gun.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what happen to the Soviet 76mm S54 gun.</p>
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		<title>By: Airborne Engineer</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27518</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Airborne Engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2013 09:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you were to hit the edge of the mantlet on the tiger... you would still need to pen the frontal turret armour as it is overlapped there!!!

They never look at the reality!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you were to hit the edge of the mantlet on the tiger&#8230; you would still need to pen the frontal turret armour as it is overlapped there!!!</p>
<p>They never look at the reality!</p>
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		<title>By: turarwanaa</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27325</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[turarwanaa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Confirmation on Churchill III&#039;s penetration of LFP, I finished a Tiger P off yesterday with standard AP, took 5-6 shots of which 3 bounced. I was right in front of him and some 150m away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confirmation on Churchill III&#8217;s penetration of LFP, I finished a Tiger P off yesterday with standard AP, took 5-6 shots of which 3 bounced. I was right in front of him and some 150m away.</p>
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		<title>By: DeutscherStahl</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeutscherStahl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS: any chance for armour schematics on the German tanks that got changed?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS: any chance for armour schematics on the German tanks that got changed?</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27240</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tank Viewer says the Porno Tiger mantlet is unchanged.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tank Viewer says the Porno Tiger mantlet is unchanged.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Livingston</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27233</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Livingston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I measured the thickness of actual Tiger I mantlet edges, top and bottom and sides, and they are about 97mm thick.  I did this at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, before the Tiger I (captured in Tunisia) was shipped back to Germany for restoration.  These measurements were confirmed by the curator of the big French armor museum, on a later-production Tiger I, and published in our book _World War II Ballistics: Armor and Gunnery_ c. 2000, unfortunately out of print now.  The 150mm thick part is pierced by one or two gun sight ports, so would resist as if thinner, depending on the size of the attacking projectile.  The rest of the mantlet thickness appear the same as our findings, based on German cross sectional engineering drawings.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I measured the thickness of actual Tiger I mantlet edges, top and bottom and sides, and they are about 97mm thick.  I did this at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, before the Tiger I (captured in Tunisia) was shipped back to Germany for restoration.  These measurements were confirmed by the curator of the big French armor museum, on a later-production Tiger I, and published in our book _World War II Ballistics: Armor and Gunnery_ c. 2000, unfortunately out of print now.  The 150mm thick part is pierced by one or two gun sight ports, so would resist as if thinner, depending on the size of the attacking projectile.  The rest of the mantlet thickness appear the same as our findings, based on German cross sectional engineering drawings.<br />
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without the cupola weakspot, going hull down is far more effective as it loses the weakspot - buff. 

At least you don&#039;t have 76mm on the lower glacis like the Caernarvon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the cupola weakspot, going hull down is far more effective as it loses the weakspot &#8211; buff. </p>
<p>At least you don&#8217;t have 76mm on the lower glacis like the Caernarvon.</p>
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		<title>By: Legiondude</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/25/8-8-vk3601h-and-tiger-mantlet-changes/#comment-27155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legiondude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 14:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It gets -7 with the long 88 on the Tiger H

Tiger II gets -8 though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gets -7 with the long 88 on the Tiger H</p>
<p>Tiger II gets -8 though</p>
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