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		<title>By: StompyChar</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/08/31/the-last-of-the-ausf-d-panthers/#comment-33463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[StompyChar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well I beleive he&#039;s using the parts to restore another Panther and convert it - not to mention it had been untouched untill 2004 so I doubt anything good was left of it if it was left in the tank.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I beleive he&#8217;s using the parts to restore another Panther and convert it &#8211; not to mention it had been untouched untill 2004 so I doubt anything good was left of it if it was left in the tank.</p>
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		<title>By: Sl8</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sl8]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2013 09:29:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From time to time there comes a shallow, trollish comment about history from Kellomies&#039; ass

How were the other eastern states let off lightly ? 
Romania had to pay huge war reparations although it ended the war on the side of the soviets
30-50.000 prisoners in 1944
300.000 sent to Siberia after war as enemies of the new communist state
~ 50 years of Stalinist communism 

Hungary
huge war reparations, the same murdering of the elites, not to mention the soviet response to the Hungarian revolution in &#039;56

These were the other two main contributors to the German invasion of the USSR. Both states were forced into the alliance with Germany by the weakness of the Allies and the help (in the beginning) of the soviets (Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). In 1940, USSR was the one that launched an unprovoked, genocidal invasion of Romania. Romania had no other choice if it wanted it&#039;s territories recovered. Hungary was completely dependent on Germany for the running of it&#039;s economy and it&#039;s political stability. 

But it&#039;s OK, this is the Internet and you can continue to talk out your ass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From time to time there comes a shallow, trollish comment about history from Kellomies&#8217; ass</p>
<p>How were the other eastern states let off lightly ?<br />
Romania had to pay huge war reparations although it ended the war on the side of the soviets<br />
30-50.000 prisoners in 1944<br />
300.000 sent to Siberia after war as enemies of the new communist state<br />
~ 50 years of Stalinist communism </p>
<p>Hungary<br />
huge war reparations, the same murdering of the elites, not to mention the soviet response to the Hungarian revolution in &#8217;56</p>
<p>These were the other two main contributors to the German invasion of the USSR. Both states were forced into the alliance with Germany by the weakness of the Allies and the help (in the beginning) of the soviets (Ribbentrop-Molotov pact). In 1940, USSR was the one that launched an unprovoked, genocidal invasion of Romania. Romania had no other choice if it wanted it&#8217;s territories recovered. Hungary was completely dependent on Germany for the running of it&#8217;s economy and it&#8217;s political stability. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s OK, this is the Internet and you can continue to talk out your ass.</p>
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		<title>By: chimp</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chimp]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;real life polish tank brigades were skilled, unlike their WoT counterparts.&quot;

now you have insulted the polish people, lol.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;real life polish tank brigades were skilled, unlike their WoT counterparts.&#8221;</p>
<p>now you have insulted the polish people, lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 10:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OMG What a stupidy 

First destilation of alcohol was made by  Zosimos from Panapolis about year 400 n.e.
This ability spread in the Arab world in term of medicine.
In XII century it was bring from crusades to Italy and this is how &quot;Grappa&quot; appeared.

Vodka brewed from wheat probably invented in Germany in XIV century. (łac. aqua vitae, water of life)
And from there went to the Poland.

votka as You describe is caled in Poland &quot;Bimber&quot; eng. - &quot;hooch&quot;

In the eighth century, N. E. Arab alchemists received the first-ever hooch

I agree with You in one thing Russian did not invented Vodka ...  they just made it their notional sport.

Is interesting to say that paraffin oil was invented by polish alchemist, seeking to obtain alcohol from rude oil. ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG What a stupidy </p>
<p>First destilation of alcohol was made by  Zosimos from Panapolis about year 400 n.e.<br />
This ability spread in the Arab world in term of medicine.<br />
In XII century it was bring from crusades to Italy and this is how &#8220;Grappa&#8221; appeared.</p>
<p>Vodka brewed from wheat probably invented in Germany in XIV century. (łac. aqua vitae, water of life)<br />
And from there went to the Poland.</p>
<p>votka as You describe is caled in Poland &#8220;Bimber&#8221; eng. &#8211; &#8220;hooch&#8221;</p>
<p>In the eighth century, N. E. Arab alchemists received the first-ever hooch</p>
<p>I agree with You in one thing Russian did not invented Vodka &#8230;  they just made it their notional sport.</p>
<p>Is interesting to say that paraffin oil was invented by polish alchemist, seeking to obtain alcohol from rude oil. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Balc0ra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Balc0ra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Sep 2013 05:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh noes the poles where not n00bs in WWII. If if where not for the Poles that held back the German counter attack that was heading for the US troops heading for Berlin. The US troops would not have made it there at all. They might have failed in defending their country early on. But they fought just as good as the rest to get Europe back. They had some Ace tankers worth mentioning as the rest had.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh noes the poles where not n00bs in WWII. If if where not for the Poles that held back the German counter attack that was heading for the US troops heading for Berlin. The US troops would not have made it there at all. They might have failed in defending their country early on. But they fought just as good as the rest to get Europe back. They had some Ace tankers worth mentioning as the rest had.</p>
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		<title>By: anoanus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anoanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not magic, it was the outcome of previous decisions and attitude. Of course Churchill, of all people, couldn&#039;t be happy about the cooperation with Stalin, but the end game, the final situation - for example in Jalta - was decided not just after the war, but decided by the decision during it - now that Hitler turned on Stalin (which he planned form the beginning), let&#039;s give Stalin everything he needs to beat Nazis. So the situation, where Stalin took what he wanted, didn&#039;t create itself. Same goes for how and why has the WWII started - Hitler didn&#039;t jump out of a magic hat with 10,000 tanks and an army, it was &quot;maybe if we pretend there&#039;s no problem, the problem will go away&quot; by the to-be Allies.
Don&#039;t tell me &quot;what could have they done by the time war was over?&quot;, think what should be done before that so the outcome wasn&#039;t as grim for everyone, winners or losers. And no, nobody can be excused when millions died and were betrayed because of purely political decisions, driven by &quot;will I win the next election&quot; and similar reasons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not magic, it was the outcome of previous decisions and attitude. Of course Churchill, of all people, couldn&#8217;t be happy about the cooperation with Stalin, but the end game, the final situation &#8211; for example in Jalta &#8211; was decided not just after the war, but decided by the decision during it &#8211; now that Hitler turned on Stalin (which he planned form the beginning), let&#8217;s give Stalin everything he needs to beat Nazis. So the situation, where Stalin took what he wanted, didn&#8217;t create itself. Same goes for how and why has the WWII started &#8211; Hitler didn&#8217;t jump out of a magic hat with 10,000 tanks and an army, it was &#8220;maybe if we pretend there&#8217;s no problem, the problem will go away&#8221; by the to-be Allies.<br />
Don&#8217;t tell me &#8220;what could have they done by the time war was over?&#8221;, think what should be done before that so the outcome wasn&#8217;t as grim for everyone, winners or losers. And no, nobody can be excused when millions died and were betrayed because of purely political decisions, driven by &#8220;will I win the next election&#8221; and similar reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultimul Panther Ausf. D &#124; WoTRomania</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ultimul Panther Ausf. D &#124; WoTRomania]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 13:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I note you&#039;ve yet to explain by what magic exactly short of prolonging the war in Europe for God knows how much longer, with the associated ballooning butcher&#039;s bill, would the Democracies have been able to do shit about the rather simple fact on the ground the USSR was taking a lot of land and, unsurprisingly, doing its level best to ensure the future rulers thereof would be their creatures. (The last turned out to be a mixed success at best.)

To put it in very blunt Realpolitik terms, the lives of their own citizens were, indeed, a rather higher priority concern for the people in London and Washington than the political future of Central Europe. Democracies can be funny that way, and good luck getting the prospect of a throwdown with the Soviets in &#039;45 sold to the general publics and rest of the governements.

As for Yalta, bah. Roosevelt was kind of *dying* at the time so he can be excused of lapses of judgement, and Churchill couldn&#039;t so shit on his own. And neither could in any case have offered a tenable and realistic argument against the strategic realities on the ground anyway. Plus it should be noted Stalin cheerfully agreed to allow for free elections in eg. Poland - naturally enough he was lying through his teeth, but the fuck was anyone going to do about it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I note you&#8217;ve yet to explain by what magic exactly short of prolonging the war in Europe for God knows how much longer, with the associated ballooning butcher&#8217;s bill, would the Democracies have been able to do shit about the rather simple fact on the ground the USSR was taking a lot of land and, unsurprisingly, doing its level best to ensure the future rulers thereof would be their creatures. (The last turned out to be a mixed success at best.)</p>
<p>To put it in very blunt Realpolitik terms, the lives of their own citizens were, indeed, a rather higher priority concern for the people in London and Washington than the political future of Central Europe. Democracies can be funny that way, and good luck getting the prospect of a throwdown with the Soviets in &#8217;45 sold to the general publics and rest of the governements.</p>
<p>As for Yalta, bah. Roosevelt was kind of *dying* at the time so he can be excused of lapses of judgement, and Churchill couldn&#8217;t so shit on his own. And neither could in any case have offered a tenable and realistic argument against the strategic realities on the ground anyway. Plus it should be noted Stalin cheerfully agreed to allow for free elections in eg. Poland &#8211; naturally enough he was lying through his teeth, but the fuck was anyone going to do about it?</p>
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		<title>By: anoanus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anoanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 11:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just summed up what you wrote, no hurt butt, but you seem to have one. And like I said, you have pretty much the same voice that, for example Poland, heard then (which wasn&#039;t &quot;Axis minor&quot; by any means) - &quot;we need your help because Nazis will bomb our cities to shit! Fight for Britain! Okay, Britain is safe, now go back to your shithole and we&#039;ll let commies take care of your welfare&quot;.
It&#039;s not about waging another war against soviets, it&#039;s about &quot;we secured ourselves, we don&#039;t need to care about our allies anymore&quot; position that the Allies showed, for example, in Jalta Conference, where they gave Stalin whatever he wanted - which in itself shows how rotten the politics were.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just summed up what you wrote, no hurt butt, but you seem to have one. And like I said, you have pretty much the same voice that, for example Poland, heard then (which wasn&#8217;t &#8220;Axis minor&#8221; by any means) &#8211; &#8220;we need your help because Nazis will bomb our cities to shit! Fight for Britain! Okay, Britain is safe, now go back to your shithole and we&#8217;ll let commies take care of your welfare&#8221;.<br />
It&#8217;s not about waging another war against soviets, it&#8217;s about &#8220;we secured ourselves, we don&#8217;t need to care about our allies anymore&#8221; position that the Allies showed, for example, in Jalta Conference, where they gave Stalin whatever he wanted &#8211; which in itself shows how rotten the politics were.</p>
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		<title>By: anoanus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anoanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Sep 2013 10:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, it would be Russians, since it was their soldiers who distilled alcohol from tank&#039;s main armament recoil absorbers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it would be Russians, since it was their soldiers who distilled alcohol from tank&#8217;s main armament recoil absorbers.</p>
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