Comments on: 1.9.2013

By: Vlevs

Vlevs — Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:24:48 +0000

Except, that’s not a test table. It’s a theoretical table calculated from DeMarre equation, derived from shell weight and muzzle velocity, based on Soviet shell performance. It does not and can not account for differences in shell design. It’s just a guideline for armor designers for expected performance of enemy guns, giving a ‘ballpark’ figure.

I tested myself, values given are within ~1% from theoretical. No practical test can give that kind of consistency. Especially considering Soviet shells were quite different from German shells at the time.

By: chimp

chimp — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 23:53:09 +0000

can it be, in the near future that obj 140 will be nerf and downgrade to the tier IX (under the T 62A i suppose) and obj 430 will be put in the tier X as a successor of the T 54 and the owner of the obj 140 will be granted a free obj 430?

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:09:56 +0000

Quality of armor used in tests

Western: High
Soviet: Unknown
German: Perfect

By: Captian Nemo

Captian Nemo — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:02:11 +0000

The Germans, US, Russians, French and iirc UK all had their own standards on how to test their guns (artillery and tanks) and how to evaluate them. Taking all of the test results and then trying to compare them is not easy on the best of days.
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NEMO.

By: Listy

Listy — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 17:09:37 +0000

Now that is a valid complaint! Which I’m afraid I can’t do anything about.

By: Kyeaah

Kyeaah — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 14:49:14 +0000

Oh, “x% penetration” means x% of the shell has penetrated, then it’s definitely not 75% pen 100% of the time.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:36:12 +0000

Considering the Finnish armoured forces had, besides those, like a handful of captured T-28s and KVs… good thing the terrain here is more infantry-centric anyway.
But then again were it even halfway decent “tank country” the Red Army would’ve steamrolled us already in ’39 and there’d never have been a Continuation War anyway.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 13:31:10 +0000

Because changing tank specs is totally the same thing as replacing it entirely.

By: Adrian Chang

Adrian Chang — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:35:41 +0000

They did changed it in patch 8.6.
Now shell damage is Gaussian as well, but not sure about penetration.

By: SBI

SBI — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:01:07 +0000

Wrong.
It was on ftr long time ago. – SerB states that (SS: unlike the accuracy), the penetration value within the 25 percent from average is distributed randomly (SS: in other words, with average pen 100, you have the same chance to get 78 pen and 100 pen, the average value is not advantaged anyhow)

Only accuracy is Gaussian. Unless they changed it.