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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/03/8-8-lag-fix-possible/#comment-53882</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why would overclocking suddenly be a issue ONLY after 8.8 PATCH gets released and not prior in 8.7?

Its like grasping at straws to find a solution and trying to paint WG in some angelic light. They introduced a patch before which crashed with nvidia drivers, now they released a patch which is lagging on ms and again the MS lag is coming from TELIA and WG SERVER NODES.

It has nothing to do with overclocking. PERIOD.

WG introduced a patch -&gt; ms issue happens -&gt; systems are the same as previous patch -&gt; only change is WoT patch.

Overclocking only becomes a issue to a computer system when : -

A. you don&#039;t know what your doing and put it past the required level and the system crashes
B. The hardware is incapable of decent level of overclocking
C. You don&#039;t have adequate cooling to run overclocking.

Also, to point out, there is plenty of WoT players who have no form of overclocking and are still getting the ms spikes, so its not overclocking, its what I said above, the Telia ms nodes having 100+ ms spikes and WG&#039;s nodes having a 30-60% packet loss on evenings when userbase is over the 80k mark.

MS lag was introduced with 8.8 PATCH, WG has created the problem, NOT THE END USER.

Users computers all haven&#039;t suddenly become overclocked or problematic after one event: 8.8 PATCH.

FYI, the EC Sensor is detecting your fan speeds on your CPU, if you disable that your computer cannot regulate the fan speed on your CPU, so in essence switching that off will lead to your computer melting because your not suppose to switch the damn thing off.

Following internet advice from a email is a big no-no. Don&#039;t do it its stupid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would overclocking suddenly be a issue ONLY after 8.8 PATCH gets released and not prior in 8.7?</p>
<p>Its like grasping at straws to find a solution and trying to paint WG in some angelic light. They introduced a patch before which crashed with nvidia drivers, now they released a patch which is lagging on ms and again the MS lag is coming from TELIA and WG SERVER NODES.</p>
<p>It has nothing to do with overclocking. PERIOD.</p>
<p>WG introduced a patch -&gt; ms issue happens -&gt; systems are the same as previous patch -&gt; only change is WoT patch.</p>
<p>Overclocking only becomes a issue to a computer system when : -</p>
<p>A. you don&#8217;t know what your doing and put it past the required level and the system crashes<br />
B. The hardware is incapable of decent level of overclocking<br />
C. You don&#8217;t have adequate cooling to run overclocking.</p>
<p>Also, to point out, there is plenty of WoT players who have no form of overclocking and are still getting the ms spikes, so its not overclocking, its what I said above, the Telia ms nodes having 100+ ms spikes and WG&#8217;s nodes having a 30-60% packet loss on evenings when userbase is over the 80k mark.</p>
<p>MS lag was introduced with 8.8 PATCH, WG has created the problem, NOT THE END USER.</p>
<p>Users computers all haven&#8217;t suddenly become overclocked or problematic after one event: 8.8 PATCH.</p>
<p>FYI, the EC Sensor is detecting your fan speeds on your CPU, if you disable that your computer cannot regulate the fan speed on your CPU, so in essence switching that off will lead to your computer melting because your not suppose to switch the damn thing off.</p>
<p>Following internet advice from a email is a big no-no. Don&#8217;t do it its stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Ultrasonic2</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ultrasonic2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can totally believe this issue could be caused by over clocking. I had a similar issue with  Windows Media centre. 

It would display Live TV with a slight shudder that most people didn&#039;t notice but annoyed me.
Someone suggested it might be a timing issue. I found an app that would tell me how accurate the PC was keeping high resolution timing. And sure enough it was something like 0.003 of a second out. 

in THIS case removing the overclock resolved the issue. Also in the Bios there is some thing about using alternate timing which was also worth while investigating.

I ran the same test on another machine that was highly over clocked and it didn&#039;t experience the issue. Both were Gigabyte boards. The other cool thing about the app is you could run it and it would report back the ability for your machine to playback content smoothly as many drivers and what not request for resources.

We need to remember on windows nothing happens in real time everything gets put in a request queue (So we can multi task)  So it&#039;s highly possible that some driver or anything is causing WOT to have to wait a fraction of a second for resources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can totally believe this issue could be caused by over clocking. I had a similar issue with  Windows Media centre. </p>
<p>It would display Live TV with a slight shudder that most people didn&#8217;t notice but annoyed me.<br />
Someone suggested it might be a timing issue. I found an app that would tell me how accurate the PC was keeping high resolution timing. And sure enough it was something like 0.003 of a second out. </p>
<p>in THIS case removing the overclock resolved the issue. Also in the Bios there is some thing about using alternate timing which was also worth while investigating.</p>
<p>I ran the same test on another machine that was highly over clocked and it didn&#8217;t experience the issue. Both were Gigabyte boards. The other cool thing about the app is you could run it and it would report back the ability for your machine to playback content smoothly as many drivers and what not request for resources.</p>
<p>We need to remember on windows nothing happens in real time everything gets put in a request queue (So we can multi task)  So it&#8217;s highly possible that some driver or anything is causing WOT to have to wait a fraction of a second for resources.</p>
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		<title>By: NAZ2222</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have and ASUS multicore enhance thing enabled, but the sensor disabling fixed my heavy lags (it defines very closely what I had in game in fact), so apparently Gigabyte motherboards may have something similar to ASUS &quot;optimizations&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have and ASUS multicore enhance thing enabled, but the sensor disabling fixed my heavy lags (it defines very closely what I had in game in fact), so apparently Gigabyte motherboards may have something similar to ASUS &#8220;optimizations&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Overclocking may be OK, but stupid dynamic overclocking can interfere with event timing. In the Russian community there is a recent post about eliminating heavy lags by disabling &quot;CPU Intelligent Accelerator&quot; in BIOS (on a Gigabyte motherboard, I think).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overclocking may be OK, but stupid dynamic overclocking can interfere with event timing. In the Russian community there is a recent post about eliminating heavy lags by disabling &#8220;CPU Intelligent Accelerator&#8221; in BIOS (on a Gigabyte motherboard, I think).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/03/8-8-lag-fix-possible/#comment-53714</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 23:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you enabled some kind of dynamic overclocking (most probably in BIOS)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you enabled some kind of dynamic overclocking (most probably in BIOS)?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 21:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a petition to WG up and running re the lag issues - please sign if affected and spread the word:

http://www.change.org/petitions/wargaming-net-solve-the-problem-of-lag]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a petition to WG up and running re the lag issues &#8211; please sign if affected and spread the word:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.change.org/petitions/wargaming-net-solve-the-problem-of-lag" rel="nofollow">http://www.change.org/petitions/wargaming-net-solve-the-problem-of-lag</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/03/8-8-lag-fix-possible/#comment-53665</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 21:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You really should stop taking random emails filled with garbage as truth.

Overclocking doesn&#039;t effect your latency ingame, your ISP, connection, your routing to the servers and how there load is at that timepoint is what effects latency.

The facts ladies and gentlemen is that Telia, a ISP in europe is causing a 100ms hop on 4 nodes, further to this when the evening rolls in WG&#039;s server nodes are suffering a 30-60% packet loss.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OVERCLOCKING.

That sunk in yet?

Its routing and server load. Its Telia&#039;s and WG&#039;s issue, not users computers which worked perfectly fine with 8.7 and magically suddenly have issues with 8.8 PATCH CODE WORK, which conviently then requires you to disable your overclocking which worked fine in previous patch?

Please.

Talk about horse ****.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should stop taking random emails filled with garbage as truth.</p>
<p>Overclocking doesn&#8217;t effect your latency ingame, your ISP, connection, your routing to the servers and how there load is at that timepoint is what effects latency.</p>
<p>The facts ladies and gentlemen is that Telia, a ISP in europe is causing a 100ms hop on 4 nodes, further to this when the evening rolls in WG&#8217;s server nodes are suffering a 30-60% packet loss.</p>
<p>THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OVERCLOCKING.</p>
<p>That sunk in yet?</p>
<p>Its routing and server load. Its Telia&#8217;s and WG&#8217;s issue, not users computers which worked perfectly fine with 8.7 and magically suddenly have issues with 8.8 PATCH CODE WORK, which conviently then requires you to disable your overclocking which worked fine in previous patch?</p>
<p>Please.</p>
<p>Talk about horse ****.</p>
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		<title>By: NAZ2222</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NAZ2222]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 19:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can confirm that enabling the sensor brings lag back, I have that multimedia service disabled too. 

I&#039;m not saying that disabling the sensor fixes all problems in WoT, I still have ocasionall red blips, but in my case it made the game playable for me again.

Good luck everyone]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can confirm that enabling the sensor brings lag back, I have that multimedia service disabled too. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that disabling the sensor fixes all problems in WoT, I still have ocasionall red blips, but in my case it made the game playable for me again.</p>
<p>Good luck everyone</p>
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		<title>By: anonanus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try re-enabling the sensor, confirm that it lags, then try disabling Multimedia Class Scheduler Service and re-confirm it lags after reset. No promises, just science!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try re-enabling the sensor, confirm that it lags, then try disabling Multimedia Class Scheduler Service and re-confirm it lags after reset. No promises, just science!</p>
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		<title>By: anonanus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[anonanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 18:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The how do you get to BCC, if not through Telia, en route to EU1?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The how do you get to BCC, if not through Telia, en route to EU1?</p>
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