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		<title>By: ThaElf</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/29/new-wg-personal-rating-in-0-8-9/#comment-71567</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThaElf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 05:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[42 is answer to everything, google it up, you might learn something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>42 is answer to everything, google it up, you might learn something.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonylols</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonylols]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Oct 2013 04:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why wouldn&#039;t a functional relationship between average xp, win rate and level played be a perfect metric for skill.

Each tier an average player is expected to gain **** xp per win and ****xp per loss.

If you on average gain more xp per win and/or more xp per loss you are above average.  xp is supposed to take into account damage/scouting/surviving etc on a scale which WG has already deemed &quot;fair&quot;.... or is supposed to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why wouldn&#8217;t a functional relationship between average xp, win rate and level played be a perfect metric for skill.</p>
<p>Each tier an average player is expected to gain **** xp per win and ****xp per loss.</p>
<p>If you on average gain more xp per win and/or more xp per loss you are above average.  xp is supposed to take into account damage/scouting/surviving etc on a scale which WG has already deemed &#8220;fair&#8221;&#8230;. or is supposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/29/new-wg-personal-rating-in-0-8-9/#comment-71517</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How high can it be? 

Easy to figure out. Say you have a 51%...means 1 out of every 100 games changes from a defeat to a win in your favor. Thus you win 51 out of 100 times.

That is assuming 50/100 will be win predetermined and 50/100 will be loss with average skill. Which after thousands of battles is an accurate assumption.

Though, as you know the average winrate is closer to 49% when you factor in draws.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How high can it be? </p>
<p>Easy to figure out. Say you have a 51%&#8230;means 1 out of every 100 games changes from a defeat to a win in your favor. Thus you win 51 out of 100 times.</p>
<p>That is assuming 50/100 will be win predetermined and 50/100 will be loss with average skill. Which after thousands of battles is an accurate assumption.</p>
<p>Though, as you know the average winrate is closer to 49% when you factor in draws.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 23:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You called average players noobs and say they suck. It&#039;s not exactly a compliment.

And I understand what are you saying. You think the game is easy and average players suck. Well there are millions of them. The problem is that you are unable to tolerate the average players. And this often leads to unnecessary insults and flaming.

Just start a high tier battle and see how much pathetic whining goes on. Lost! 5% win chance, fucking retard noob team again! x is noob, y is noob, z is noob, uninstall game idiots!!!! GG enemy you win, all idiots are on left!!!!

It&#039;s really a stupid thing to whine about your team and make them hate you, because I remember that someone was writing not so long ago that this is a team game. So how about making these idiot whiners disappear from the game and only those good players should be left who can motivate the team, or at least shut up and not start the battle with insulting everyone on your side.

We could start with something simple, like not saying that all average players are noobs and suck, then we can also try something like &quot;hi guys, please win&quot; at the start of the battle instead of &quot;not this fucking stupid team!!! lost again!!!&quot;. Believe me, idiots or not, the first sentence will have better results on the long run than the second. And which is more common? The second by far. You rarely see the first version. So rarely that if you say it, I will even load premium ammo and rape the enemy team to reward you for exceptionally good behavior. Some people know how to gain allies, but on the other hand, some people are good at making enemies out of allies. It&#039;s really up to you to decide where do you belong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You called average players noobs and say they suck. It&#8217;s not exactly a compliment.</p>
<p>And I understand what are you saying. You think the game is easy and average players suck. Well there are millions of them. The problem is that you are unable to tolerate the average players. And this often leads to unnecessary insults and flaming.</p>
<p>Just start a high tier battle and see how much pathetic whining goes on. Lost! 5% win chance, fucking retard noob team again! x is noob, y is noob, z is noob, uninstall game idiots!!!! GG enemy you win, all idiots are on left!!!!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really a stupid thing to whine about your team and make them hate you, because I remember that someone was writing not so long ago that this is a team game. So how about making these idiot whiners disappear from the game and only those good players should be left who can motivate the team, or at least shut up and not start the battle with insulting everyone on your side.</p>
<p>We could start with something simple, like not saying that all average players are noobs and suck, then we can also try something like &#8220;hi guys, please win&#8221; at the start of the battle instead of &#8220;not this fucking stupid team!!! lost again!!!&#8221;. Believe me, idiots or not, the first sentence will have better results on the long run than the second. And which is more common? The second by far. You rarely see the first version. So rarely that if you say it, I will even load premium ammo and rape the enemy team to reward you for exceptionally good behavior. Some people know how to gain allies, but on the other hand, some people are good at making enemies out of allies. It&#8217;s really up to you to decide where do you belong.</p>
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		<title>By: AngryBanana(eu)</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/10/29/new-wg-personal-rating-in-0-8-9/#comment-71497</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AngryBanana(eu)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 22:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im not raging about bad players, Im simply stating that I think the avg player sucks. Also, I&#039;d obviously rather have the avg guy on my team than the below avg one.

You say 49% is avg, I agree, but this average is so easy to achieve that I still think you are a bad player if you can&#039;t get an above average performance. That was all Im saying, but you refuse to see how someone could think this.

Lets take a class in school as an example, the whole class takes a test and all students failed it, the avg is failing the test, but they still all fail even though they&#039;re average. Their grade is the absolute I was talking about, and no you cant possibly create a rating for that in wot but that is what I meant.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not raging about bad players, Im simply stating that I think the avg player sucks. Also, I&#8217;d obviously rather have the avg guy on my team than the below avg one.</p>
<p>You say 49% is avg, I agree, but this average is so easy to achieve that I still think you are a bad player if you can&#8217;t get an above average performance. That was all Im saying, but you refuse to see how someone could think this.</p>
<p>Lets take a class in school as an example, the whole class takes a test and all students failed it, the avg is failing the test, but they still all fail even though they&#8217;re average. Their grade is the absolute I was talking about, and no you cant possibly create a rating for that in wot but that is what I meant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 21:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This game may be a team game, but more importantly it is a business. If WG would care about the quality of players, you would have to take tests or finish tutorials to progress in the game and until you learn it, you will not progress. Needless to say that WoT is far from this mentality. What they want is quantity, no matter how bad is the playerbase. Rewards for good players are also not too common, except for a few missions that were added recently, so the motivation to be good is almost nothing.

Who can be blamed for the frustration. The millions of players for not learning? WG for not setting any standards? Or maybe you for expecting such standards in a free to play game? I wish it would be only WG who can be blamed, but if you think about it realistically, your expectations are just too high.
Still, I also blame WG for not having enough info in the game, not having tutorials, not motivating players to get better. This is clearly their fault. If you want to see the armor/weakspots of the tanks or gun depression or camo, can you see it in the game? No. You can see almost nothing. You have to hunt for information and look at charts that were made by testers in training room or ripped out from the game files (which is forbidden by EULA btw). This is a complex game (compared to a random FPS) with many info but they really make it hard for the players to find that info. In fact, you can get them only unofficially.

The reason why I answered to AngryBanana was obviously the noob=&gt;49%. 49% is simply the average and calling average players noobs is plain stupid. The absolute skill thing was just the addition, because it&#039;s just a non-existing undefined gibberish to justify what he said. If I would have to come up with some stupid ratio, I would say

below 47% = noob/bad
47-49% = below average
49% = average
49-51% = above average
above 51% = good

Above this, I don&#039;t bother with very good and unicum and super unicum. If someone hit the average, he can be in my team, he is at least not dragging me down. If he has hit good, then great, even 51+% players are sort of rare in randoms (you can be happy if you have 2 or 3 of them in your team). If he is below the average, well, it sucks.

Maybe I didn&#039;t set up high standards, but at least it&#039;s realistic and not branding 95% of the playerbase as noobs. And I am not saying that all good players are raging all the time. I almost never rage, probably because I know what to expect when I push the random battle button. But look at the forum and you will see the bad example. It&#039;s almost impossible to avoid raging when you keep losing because you have higher than realistic expectations from random players.

You just have to deal with it, because the players will not change. Only WG can improve it&#039;s attitude, be mad at them instead. When you click on WoT, you have to keep in mind that it&#039;s a video game, also played by kids who may not even speak English and WoT is not exactly a user-friendly game when it comes to game mechanics and learning. They are not noobs, they are just casual players. You on the other hand visit this blog, the forum, I assume you know the Wiki inside out and gathered additional info from many unofficial sources. You are just too good, that&#039;s all. You take the game seriously, unlike the majority.

It&#039;s pointless to call them noobs or flame them, it&#039;s not their fault that the game is what it is. WG has designed it this way, WG has set the standards and honestly when you figured out for the first time that you need to take some extra effort to gather some info that you can&#039;t find in the client, you should have suspected that the majority will not do it. You can be glad if they even learn to use the client itself. When you kept playing after that, you have accepted that you will play with a bunch of &quot;noobs&quot;.

The bottom line is that if you want to rage about below average players, rage. They really drag you down. But you can&#039;t really complain about average players, because they are not a burden for you. Statistically they are just average. When the dice is rolled, you can be actually glad to get an average guy and not a below average guy. And if you can&#039;t play with average guys, all you can do is uninstall the game until you get your skill based MM or keep raging until you get a chat/forum ban.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This game may be a team game, but more importantly it is a business. If WG would care about the quality of players, you would have to take tests or finish tutorials to progress in the game and until you learn it, you will not progress. Needless to say that WoT is far from this mentality. What they want is quantity, no matter how bad is the playerbase. Rewards for good players are also not too common, except for a few missions that were added recently, so the motivation to be good is almost nothing.</p>
<p>Who can be blamed for the frustration. The millions of players for not learning? WG for not setting any standards? Or maybe you for expecting such standards in a free to play game? I wish it would be only WG who can be blamed, but if you think about it realistically, your expectations are just too high.<br />
Still, I also blame WG for not having enough info in the game, not having tutorials, not motivating players to get better. This is clearly their fault. If you want to see the armor/weakspots of the tanks or gun depression or camo, can you see it in the game? No. You can see almost nothing. You have to hunt for information and look at charts that were made by testers in training room or ripped out from the game files (which is forbidden by EULA btw). This is a complex game (compared to a random FPS) with many info but they really make it hard for the players to find that info. In fact, you can get them only unofficially.</p>
<p>The reason why I answered to AngryBanana was obviously the noob=&gt;49%. 49% is simply the average and calling average players noobs is plain stupid. The absolute skill thing was just the addition, because it&#8217;s just a non-existing undefined gibberish to justify what he said. If I would have to come up with some stupid ratio, I would say</p>
<p>below 47% = noob/bad<br />
47-49% = below average<br />
49% = average<br />
49-51% = above average<br />
above 51% = good</p>
<p>Above this, I don&#8217;t bother with very good and unicum and super unicum. If someone hit the average, he can be in my team, he is at least not dragging me down. If he has hit good, then great, even 51+% players are sort of rare in randoms (you can be happy if you have 2 or 3 of them in your team). If he is below the average, well, it sucks.</p>
<p>Maybe I didn&#8217;t set up high standards, but at least it&#8217;s realistic and not branding 95% of the playerbase as noobs. And I am not saying that all good players are raging all the time. I almost never rage, probably because I know what to expect when I push the random battle button. But look at the forum and you will see the bad example. It&#8217;s almost impossible to avoid raging when you keep losing because you have higher than realistic expectations from random players.</p>
<p>You just have to deal with it, because the players will not change. Only WG can improve it&#8217;s attitude, be mad at them instead. When you click on WoT, you have to keep in mind that it&#8217;s a video game, also played by kids who may not even speak English and WoT is not exactly a user-friendly game when it comes to game mechanics and learning. They are not noobs, they are just casual players. You on the other hand visit this blog, the forum, I assume you know the Wiki inside out and gathered additional info from many unofficial sources. You are just too good, that&#8217;s all. You take the game seriously, unlike the majority.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pointless to call them noobs or flame them, it&#8217;s not their fault that the game is what it is. WG has designed it this way, WG has set the standards and honestly when you figured out for the first time that you need to take some extra effort to gather some info that you can&#8217;t find in the client, you should have suspected that the majority will not do it. You can be glad if they even learn to use the client itself. When you kept playing after that, you have accepted that you will play with a bunch of &#8220;noobs&#8221;.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that if you want to rage about below average players, rage. They really drag you down. But you can&#8217;t really complain about average players, because they are not a burden for you. Statistically they are just average. When the dice is rolled, you can be actually glad to get an average guy and not a below average guy. And if you can&#8217;t play with average guys, all you can do is uninstall the game until you get your skill based MM or keep raging until you get a chat/forum ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s AFAIK because spotting damage doesn&#039;t get filed in the records...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s AFAIK because spotting damage doesn&#8217;t get filed in the records&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Wdog</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wdog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[EEEEEEYORE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EEEEEEYORE</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Anything* can hurt your stats. Good players somehow manage to get good ones regardless.

BTW the grind for the next-tier tank with de facto elite kit is much longer than the stock grind anyway...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Anything* can hurt your stats. Good players somehow manage to get good ones regardless.</p>
<p>BTW the grind for the next-tier tank with de facto elite kit is much longer than the stock grind anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 20:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know people who&#039;d disagree with you about the 38NA, but more to the point - py more attention to the discussion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know people who&#8217;d disagree with you about the 38NA, but more to the point &#8211; py more attention to the discussion.</p>
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