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	<title>Comments on: Wargaming to buy a bank on Cyprus</title>
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		<title>By: Wargaming buys a 30 percent share in a bank &#124; For The Record</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/01/wargaming-to-buy-a-bank-on-cyprus/#comment-74341</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wargaming buys a 30 percent share in a bank &#124; For The Record]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] of you guys might have read the earlier post about Wargaming wanting to buy a bank share on [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of you guys might have read the earlier post about Wargaming wanting to buy a bank share on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/01/wargaming-to-buy-a-bank-on-cyprus/#comment-73874</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gratz, you just failed Adminstration 101. And I fail to see how the gigantic dysfunctional mess that is the US as the direct result of the lack of coordination and harmonization between state-level legislations is supposed to be some kind of positive example about *anything*.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gratz, you just failed Adminstration 101. And I fail to see how the gigantic dysfunctional mess that is the US as the direct result of the lack of coordination and harmonization between state-level legislations is supposed to be some kind of positive example about *anything*.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/01/wargaming-to-buy-a-bank-on-cyprus/#comment-73871</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s bullshit, by the by - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_history_of_the_United_States#Income_tax - and the point seems rather moot given that the expenses had simply been met by any number of more local taxes.

More importantly, 20th-century society and its economics already were not those of the 19th century - to speak nothing of the 21st. They&#039;re infinitely more complex and demanding to manage, and that unsurprisingly raises costs.

&quot;I am in favor for letting individuals choosing the tax burdens they bare.&quot;
...which would lead to nobody paying anything at all and the collapse of the society as we know it in rather short order. And then you&#039;d be trying to negotiate with Lord Humungus or. if you&#039;re really lucky, Don Corleone or a 19th-century robber baron over access to basic services and security.
Odds are good you wouldn&#039;t be getting a very good deal out of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s bullshit, by the by &#8211; <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_history_of_the_United_States#Income_tax" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_history_of_the_United_States#Income_tax</a> &#8211; and the point seems rather moot given that the expenses had simply been met by any number of more local taxes.</p>
<p>More importantly, 20th-century society and its economics already were not those of the 19th century &#8211; to speak nothing of the 21st. They&#8217;re infinitely more complex and demanding to manage, and that unsurprisingly raises costs.</p>
<p>&#8220;I am in favor for letting individuals choosing the tax burdens they bare.&#8221;<br />
&#8230;which would lead to nobody paying anything at all and the collapse of the society as we know it in rather short order. And then you&#8217;d be trying to negotiate with Lord Humungus or. if you&#8217;re really lucky, Don Corleone or a 19th-century robber baron over access to basic services and security.<br />
Odds are good you wouldn&#8217;t be getting a very good deal out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/01/wargaming-to-buy-a-bank-on-cyprus/#comment-73864</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You pay for the continued functioning and existence of the society around you; if you prefer to not make use of the goods and services it makes available to you in return that is entirely your business. It is not, however, any argument against either the fundamental necessity of taxation to pay for the running costs of that society and its infrastructure, or the dispersal of the expenses across the populace so that if a given individual suddenly requires such services the costs do not fall upon him all at once which can be quite ruinous to people of even average income - to speak nothing of the poor.
You know the basic operating logic of insurance? Same thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You pay for the continued functioning and existence of the society around you; if you prefer to not make use of the goods and services it makes available to you in return that is entirely your business. It is not, however, any argument against either the fundamental necessity of taxation to pay for the running costs of that society and its infrastructure, or the dispersal of the expenses across the populace so that if a given individual suddenly requires such services the costs do not fall upon him all at once which can be quite ruinous to people of even average income &#8211; to speak nothing of the poor.<br />
You know the basic operating logic of insurance? Same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/11/01/wargaming-to-buy-a-bank-on-cyprus/#comment-73859</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All laws are ultimately based on force, or rather the implied threat thereof. Were this not so they would not be worth the paper they&#039;re printed on, as rules that are not or cannot be enforced if need be can be disregarded at will by anyone who feels like it. (There&#039;s no particular shortage of examples.)

Also I&#039;m guessing you haven&#039;t the foggiest about the history of taxation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All laws are ultimately based on force, or rather the implied threat thereof. Were this not so they would not be worth the paper they&#8217;re printed on, as rules that are not or cannot be enforced if need be can be disregarded at will by anyone who feels like it. (There&#8217;s no particular shortage of examples.)</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m guessing you haven&#8217;t the foggiest about the history of taxation.</p>
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		<title>By: Kellomies</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kellomies]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because the gummint taxmen will totally burn down your house, rape your wife and sell you and your entire family to slavery if you fail to pay whatever they decided was your due this week right?
Idiot.
You have not the slightest idea of the actual evolution of statehood from naked Hobbesian warlordism to modern civil society do you? Or the importance of little somethings the scholars term &quot;monopoly of legitimate force&quot; and &quot;territorial sovereignty&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the gummint taxmen will totally burn down your house, rape your wife and sell you and your entire family to slavery if you fail to pay whatever they decided was your due this week right?<br />
Idiot.<br />
You have not the slightest idea of the actual evolution of statehood from naked Hobbesian warlordism to modern civil society do you? Or the importance of little somethings the scholars term &#8220;monopoly of legitimate force&#8221; and &#8220;territorial sovereignty&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: TapTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TapTwo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lord Humungus would be a good way of describing government it makes demands that individuals must comply or violence is force upon you the best part is that as government grows the only this it becomes accountable to is the wealthy lobbyists feed it. I wonder why is it that the wealthiest counties of the United States are in Virginia near Washington DC. Why is it that the individuals in these counties happen to be lobbyists and government officials.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lord Humungus would be a good way of describing government it makes demands that individuals must comply or violence is force upon you the best part is that as government grows the only this it becomes accountable to is the wealthy lobbyists feed it. I wonder why is it that the wealthiest counties of the United States are in Virginia near Washington DC. Why is it that the individuals in these counties happen to be lobbyists and government officials.</p>
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		<title>By: TapTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TapTwo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At a state level Havoc we did it before 1913. They where not a direct taxation of our wages and Americans as a whole had a greater deal of control of their taxes. Each state would experiment with different policy and forms of taxation but best of all states are easier to account for than a federal government that has the unlimited power to tax you without consent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At a state level Havoc we did it before 1913. They where not a direct taxation of our wages and Americans as a whole had a greater deal of control of their taxes. Each state would experiment with different policy and forms of taxation but best of all states are easier to account for than a federal government that has the unlimited power to tax you without consent.</p>
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		<title>By: TapTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TapTwo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a civilized world people do not use force on others to garnish their wages for services and goods they may not personally need or use. the income tax  was implemented in 1913 the bill behind it was lobbied by fat wealthy bankers. Before the income tax we still afforded all those goods and services at a state level without taxes income people at the state level had greater influences choosing the costs they bare rather than at a federal level where a few men that think they know better than you demand your wages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a civilized world people do not use force on others to garnish their wages for services and goods they may not personally need or use. the income tax  was implemented in 1913 the bill behind it was lobbied by fat wealthy bankers. Before the income tax we still afforded all those goods and services at a state level without taxes income people at the state level had greater influences choosing the costs they bare rather than at a federal level where a few men that think they know better than you demand your wages.</p>
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		<title>By: TapTwo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TapTwo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 18:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kelomies The United States did not have an income tax until 1913 and still had police, teachers, railroads, streets. If you would have paid attention to the comment you would see that I am talking about taxes on income and not taxes as a whole. I am in favor for letting individuals choosing the tax burdens they bare.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kelomies The United States did not have an income tax until 1913 and still had police, teachers, railroads, streets. If you would have paid attention to the comment you would see that I am talking about taxes on income and not taxes as a whole. I am in favor for letting individuals choosing the tax burdens they bare.</p>
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