Comments on: CW battles staging now illegal

By: Maciej Gorzkowski

Maciej Gorzkowski — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 17:25:56 +0000

by that logic and “any competitive advantage” means delaying battles or covering an ally should be bannable, since it is not documented in any way.

Hell, even being able to tell if you are going to play from cap 1 or cap 2 before special battle invites appear is using the knowledge not documented, what means exploiting.

By: Maciej Gorzkowski

Maciej Gorzkowski — Tue, 26 Nov 2013 16:51:21 +0000

and at the moment some wargaming guy is asking for a replays from battles that didn’t happen saying he will ban a player for 7 days if he doesnt giv him a replay.
The trick is, that player in question at the time he was supposed to play, was plying vcompletely different battle, that replay was sent.

So fin that unica got punished, but how many were left unpunished and how many guys were punished because someone at wg screwed something?

By: veri

veri — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:08:30 +0000

I like how people always complain the rules are so badly written. As if there was any shred of doubt in anyone’s mind (who isn’t a complete retard) that letting your ally clan farm your 15 TOGs with low tier tanks for massive exp isn’t a violation of rule 4.08.

Gorzki, people of WMI and UNica already admitted to doing this. It’s clear as a fucking day.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:02:58 +0000

Diplomacy is gay.

By: Gorzki

Gorzki — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:32:53 +0000

Frank, you already forgot when you called someone a “cheater” only because one guy in WG thought it’s impossible to get so good result?

There is nothing optimistic in seeing that WG employees will be looking for situations they decide are rigging.

As long as they will target clans that continuously fight 15 t2-t3 vs 15 togs and win it’s all fine.
But clan wars are sand-box like environment where using existing mechanics and making agreements outside of the game is a key part of it.
There is a lot of ways to exploit badly written rules.
And then we get a dillema – are we allowed to use an opportunity to get extra points.
If we sent cover and we secured our allies, are we allowed to enter the fight? Or will it be considered cheating?
How you can see the difference between playing poorly and playing bad on purpose?

It is not an occasion to praise WG for fighting cheaters. It’s just situation where making stupid rules blows WG into face and they are trying to cope with it poorly.

The rules should be make in a way that cheating is impossible or easily discernible from playing fair.
If they fail at that – “we will decide who and how to punish on our discretion” is extremely bad way of handling things.

PS – personally I have nothing to worry about – our only fight with an ally was on day 1 on landing and we didn’t have an opportunity to do it again.
I just know I could do better then the guys from WG and praising them for fucking stuff up – are you serious?

By: ouchthathurts

ouchthathurts — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 04:02:54 +0000

Essentially, this boils down to poor rule design. It amazes me that they don’t have people sitting down figuring out how to game proposed rulesets so that they can fix the rules before the actually users get to them and (inevitably) start gaming them.

By: RebeliantYT

RebeliantYT — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 03:17:37 +0000

WN Terms of service – 2. Prohibited Uses – 16. Exploit errors in design, features which are not documented and/or bugs to gain access that would otherwise not be available or to obtain any competitive advantage;

So any exploit of the design flaws are forbidden. And even exploits in diplomacy (if there are any) are wrong.

LTPF – Learn To Play Fair!

Regards.
RebeliantYT.

By: lol

lol — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 02:27:25 +0000

90% of petco

100% of hammershit (alloy forge whatever that other one was)

100% of dfa dfb ssgs whatever other shit clans they have

what a stupid question hernish. I forgot are you from hammershit of teslafail? cant quite remember. they are all that irrelevant

By: Richblaster

Richblaster — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:58:53 +0000

First: i am in Unica and did not take part in any fake battle and i have my fame points, so i could just say i dont care. Fakt is I had a bad feeling about it all the time, but everybody can make his own decision, right. I also will get enough fme to get the Fail-löwe so again i could just say i dont care. For what i care is, that again and again Wargaming is not able to get some proper rules up, AND treat all people the same. some russian clan got 1 day ban, unica gets 3 days, some who, i am sure did the same as wmi/unica get no ban at all. Again, its ok for me but still, it leaves a bad taste because first they are not able to really state what is allowed and what not, and after 10 days they say mmh you did wrong here is the ban (at weekend and end of stage one – mmh) i will not give this company any money any more not because they banned people but because they are unable to get their things running correctly (all those fails!!!!!!!)

By: Richblaster

Richblaster — Sat, 16 Nov 2013 01:52:42 +0000

40 it is