Comments on: T29 tank – possible mantlet changes

By: LeoXiao92 .

LeoXiao92 . — Fri, 22 Nov 2013 22:33:46 +0000

yeah i see the aimtime is already kinda bad, and it should be made permanently so. Pretty sure those tanks already can’t mount rammers (thank god), stabilizers and GLDs should be out too.

I haven’t played the American autoloaders but I tried the AMX 50 100 and even when I did badly I still did like 3x more damage than an average game in a German tank.

By: Rakyth

Rakyth — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:46:40 +0000

Much like wot-news’s information, it’s datamined from the game, if I remember correctly.

By: armatage

armatage — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:28:49 +0000

> there ISN’T any armor behind the mantle

Thats what people keep saying, no armor behind mantlet, but im pretty sure on the gif above i see that only the middle part of the mantlet isnt further strenghened by turret armor, making the “only” 203mm armor quite small, like maybe half of the whole mantlet. It would still be tough, with turret wiggling VERY tough, just not “I IS STRONK I KIL NOOBS” tough.

Your argument about gold ammo stands, obviously, but then again I think even mauses armor is pretty useless versus gold, WG just chose to not balance that.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:20:23 +0000

So this is me guessing you’ve only ever been on the receiving end of the things. Because there’s kind of a reason the standard equipement and crewskill setup for all autoloaders is “anything that helps aimtime”…
Mind, the WTF100 can presumably make do without but it’s a very “extreme”, Jeune École design anyway.

By: ComradeHX

ComradeHX — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:23:15 +0000

Perhaps people will learn to not be brainlessly sitting there with turret sticking out of cover after firing?

The mantlet didn’t really make much difference to Bl-10.

By: martin4x4

martin4x4 — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:50:23 +0000

I skipped halfway from ARL to the AMX M4 by free XP I earned and I have to confess if I earned more free XP sooner I would probably skip whole ARL; but it is not that it is a bad tank, it just has wrong playstyle for me, too sluggish, unreliable turret armor and too weak sides for effective angling. But that gun, on T6… it is a beast of its own. AMX M4 I do not have elite yet but already I can feel its potential, when elite it may be a little FCM50t perhaps

By: Shapeshifter

Shapeshifter — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:27:51 +0000

The Chief says he got inside a T30 turret soon after, he found out there seems to be an internal mantlet as well.
Chief :
“As to T29, there is an epilogue. I was able to climb into a T30 today, and it turns out there’s an internal mantlet.

The ‘tube’ through which the sky is showing is the 8″ of mantlet. Then you can see that there is a gap of a couple of inches, and another circle in metal. That’s about a half inch thick, probably 3/8. But you can also see that that’s just the thin bit, there are bracings of steel up to a couple inches thick on the inside as well.
I also re-evaluate my statement on the rigid-mount mantlet on T34. Looking at the curve on the top of the T30 I was on today, I think it actually is a standard 29/30/34 mantlet.”

By: Tullus

Tullus — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 05:03:01 +0000

Guess that I will park my M6 after researching the 90mm. May has well wait to see what WG does.

By: US_3rd_Army

US_3rd_Army — Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:34:56 +0000

I just thought of something, since the Chieftain managed to quickly visit the Fort Benning base, would we be not wrong to hope for a under the Chieftain’s hatch on one of those tanks because the T95 lives there :)

But back on the Topic, it really can go both ways, they may change it or not, it all depends on if they want to or not

By: LeoXiao92 .

LeoXiao92 . — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:17:21 +0000

I have far less of a problem with the French then I do with the Americans since at least the French have no gun depression and paper armor.

The American autoloaders, though, have good depression and fair mantlet armor that pwns everything at or below their tier. You fire on their hull-down form once, bounce, and they dump a full clip on you from a distance then run away to reload. It doesn’t matter if THEY bounce once or twice since they’ve got four+ shots off in the time you’ve got one, so you’re the loser in every case unless you just so happen to come upon them when they’re reloading, which never happens unless their team does absolutely nothing to cover them as they run.