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		<title>By: R4Ging</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[R4Ging]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have played PlanetSide 2, but not as early as you did.

I stopped playing for some time because of all the imbalance issues - MANY stuff that can be purchased with SC (which almost always also cost loads of Certs), especially the latest ones, tend to be the most OP weapons.

don&#039;t get me wrong, the game &quot;model&quot; (or whatever term fits best) is great, however the balancing was terrible.

I came back after a few months to see how the implementation of the stuff in the Roadmap go, and I was surprised to see how much better the game become.
not long after, I was no longer able to play PlanetSide 2 again (our bandwidth can&#039;t keep up with the updates that accumulated in time) so I read about the patch notes and was glad to see that most of the issues has been given a &quot;work-around&quot;.

I am definitely looking forward to playing PlanetSide 2 again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have played PlanetSide 2, but not as early as you did.</p>
<p>I stopped playing for some time because of all the imbalance issues &#8211; MANY stuff that can be purchased with SC (which almost always also cost loads of Certs), especially the latest ones, tend to be the most OP weapons.</p>
<p>don&#8217;t get me wrong, the game &#8220;model&#8221; (or whatever term fits best) is great, however the balancing was terrible.</p>
<p>I came back after a few months to see how the implementation of the stuff in the Roadmap go, and I was surprised to see how much better the game become.<br />
not long after, I was no longer able to play PlanetSide 2 again (our bandwidth can&#8217;t keep up with the updates that accumulated in time) so I read about the patch notes and was glad to see that most of the issues has been given a &#8220;work-around&#8221;.</p>
<p>I am definitely looking forward to playing PlanetSide 2 again.</p>
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		<title>By: ThaElf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThaElf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Nov 2013 01:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Premium gives you 50% more ingame currency. Which means in comparison you get more than 50% more credits because you don&#039;t pay extra for repairs or ammo just get extra.

No need to play lower tiers... or you can play and still shoot extra gold in each and everymatch from T1 to T10. This is pay to win. It is not purely pay to win, but it is. Locking the amount of gold ammo would get rid of the full gold users.

You can&#039;t win an argument where you simply deny your own picture of the situation. With premium you get ALL THE TIME MORE credits which can either... make you buy bigger tanks faster OR give you more exp and wins due to more penetrations and damage... There are some who get meagre penetrations buffs from silver ammo, but there are some getting outrageous amounts ( 2xPershing come to my mind... we just spammed gold while being the last tanks alive not caring to hit the weakspots... we just penned the enemy almost regardless where we hit them, difference was 180 - 268.... go figure how it affects the game balance when we had roughly 66-33 ammo loadout... and credits to spam them freely due to long time premium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Premium gives you 50% more ingame currency. Which means in comparison you get more than 50% more credits because you don&#8217;t pay extra for repairs or ammo just get extra.</p>
<p>No need to play lower tiers&#8230; or you can play and still shoot extra gold in each and everymatch from T1 to T10. This is pay to win. It is not purely pay to win, but it is. Locking the amount of gold ammo would get rid of the full gold users.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t win an argument where you simply deny your own picture of the situation. With premium you get ALL THE TIME MORE credits which can either&#8230; make you buy bigger tanks faster OR give you more exp and wins due to more penetrations and damage&#8230; There are some who get meagre penetrations buffs from silver ammo, but there are some getting outrageous amounts ( 2xPershing come to my mind&#8230; we just spammed gold while being the last tanks alive not caring to hit the weakspots&#8230; we just penned the enemy almost regardless where we hit them, difference was 180 &#8211; 268&#8230;. go figure how it affects the game balance when we had roughly 66-33 ammo loadout&#8230; and credits to spam them freely due to long time premium.</p>
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		<title>By: Quineloe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quineloe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 13:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate how they still use the term &quot;microtransactions&quot;

There is fuck all micro about buying a Tier 8 premium in WoT for €40.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate how they still use the term &#8220;microtransactions&#8221;</p>
<p>There is fuck all micro about buying a Tier 8 premium in WoT for €40.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[However a subscription ensures good customer support. GW is sadly extremely lacking on that end.

As for the shiny graphix...I said the same thing regarding GW2 vs WoW. Now looking back, WoW was better off not using those shiny new grapix zomg. 

I ask you: how many times did you have to kill a random Champion in GW2 with the local zerg when the target area becomes saturated with sparkly effects and all kinds of crap flying and blowing up allover the place and you becoming unable to 1) see your character and 2) to see the target character.
In my case? Every damn time! What&#039;s worse, say I&#039;m a class that can&#039;t take a hit or two and needs to know the orientation of the target(and say I&#039;d like to know if he&#039;s using an ability so I don&#039;t get horribly murdered). In this case, all the shiny graphix works against the game and the player. Yeah the computer can take it no problem, however I&#039;m usually trying to sift through to find those 3 pixels belonging to my character not covered by explosions and hope I won&#039;t get killed till my dodge bar replenishes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However a subscription ensures good customer support. GW is sadly extremely lacking on that end.</p>
<p>As for the shiny graphix&#8230;I said the same thing regarding GW2 vs WoW. Now looking back, WoW was better off not using those shiny new grapix zomg. </p>
<p>I ask you: how many times did you have to kill a random Champion in GW2 with the local zerg when the target area becomes saturated with sparkly effects and all kinds of crap flying and blowing up allover the place and you becoming unable to 1) see your character and 2) to see the target character.<br />
In my case? Every damn time! What&#8217;s worse, say I&#8217;m a class that can&#8217;t take a hit or two and needs to know the orientation of the target(and say I&#8217;d like to know if he&#8217;s using an ability so I don&#8217;t get horribly murdered). In this case, all the shiny graphix works against the game and the player. Yeah the computer can take it no problem, however I&#8217;m usually trying to sift through to find those 3 pixels belonging to my character not covered by explosions and hope I won&#8217;t get killed till my dodge bar replenishes.</p>
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		<title>By: Drakko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 11:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno, I&#039;m playing GW2 too and I&#039;d rather have to pay a subscription to Blizz for actual good and thought of content+customer support than not pay for anything(except the game) and wait one week for those assholes at arenanet to notice a support ticket and remove a &quot;feature&quot; from my account(namely the email authentication thingy that never worked as I&#039;ve never received the emails and got locked out of the account).

Subscription games are kinda here to stay as they do provide better services for the money spent(they kinda have to lol)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I&#8217;m playing GW2 too and I&#8217;d rather have to pay a subscription to Blizz for actual good and thought of content+customer support than not pay for anything(except the game) and wait one week for those assholes at arenanet to notice a support ticket and remove a &#8220;feature&#8221; from my account(namely the email authentication thingy that never worked as I&#8217;ve never received the emails and got locked out of the account).</p>
<p>Subscription games are kinda here to stay as they do provide better services for the money spent(they kinda have to lol)</p>
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		<title>By: Drakko</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Drakko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 10:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well yeah...sort of, the reason trash players war able to finish Molten Bore was because it was 1) real easy - every boss kinda had only 1 gimmick working for them and 2) because you rarely needed 40 players to do it anyway. You kinda only needed 20 guys to know wth they were doing, about 5 people with the quintessence and the rest could be gray/white dressed windowlickers with no use other than cannon fodder when Garr got really pissed. 

Things got dicey in ZG and BWL where you either needed everyone on top of their game as either you didn&#039;t have enough of&#039;em(ZG) or the strategies were more complex]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yeah&#8230;sort of, the reason trash players war able to finish Molten Bore was because it was 1) real easy &#8211; every boss kinda had only 1 gimmick working for them and 2) because you rarely needed 40 players to do it anyway. You kinda only needed 20 guys to know wth they were doing, about 5 people with the quintessence and the rest could be gray/white dressed windowlickers with no use other than cannon fodder when Garr got really pissed. </p>
<p>Things got dicey in ZG and BWL where you either needed everyone on top of their game as either you didn&#8217;t have enough of&#8217;em(ZG) or the strategies were more complex</p>
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		<title>By: jrt5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jrt5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 09:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In WoW instances are PVE. Actually WoW has PvP battlegrounds and arenas. Battlegrounds are like battles in WoT. You can enter them via queue alone and you will be thrown into &quot;Random battleground&quot; like random battle in WoT. Or you can register a team and enter &quot;Rated battlegrounds&quot; where you are matched against other team according to your rating. But even PVE 5man instances can be entered via queue and you will be matched with random people or you can form a group and enter the dungeon with them.
The word &quot;instance&quot; is used because thats what they actually are in programmers language. If you enter a dungeon and server creates an &quot;instance&quot; just for you with a fresh boss. If another group enters the same dungeon the server creates a new instance for this group so they have the same boss just for themselves and they can&#039;t see you or other players in the same dungeon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In WoW instances are PVE. Actually WoW has PvP battlegrounds and arenas. Battlegrounds are like battles in WoT. You can enter them via queue alone and you will be thrown into &#8220;Random battleground&#8221; like random battle in WoT. Or you can register a team and enter &#8220;Rated battlegrounds&#8221; where you are matched against other team according to your rating. But even PVE 5man instances can be entered via queue and you will be matched with random people or you can form a group and enter the dungeon with them.<br />
The word &#8220;instance&#8221; is used because thats what they actually are in programmers language. If you enter a dungeon and server creates an &#8220;instance&#8221; just for you with a fresh boss. If another group enters the same dungeon the server creates a new instance for this group so they have the same boss just for themselves and they can&#8217;t see you or other players in the same dungeon.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShocktrooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedShocktrooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s hardly limited to PC games. An obscure little game called Naval Ops: Warship Gunner 2 was VERY grindy and had increadibly exponential growth for the research costs on top of &quot;Beat Mission EUR-02-99&quot; or some shit like that. 10cm to 12cm guns (and new ammo types, caliber lengths and 2/3/4 barrels) starts cheap enough, but when you get to 50.8cm guns THEN you have to commit to new craft.

Oh, and Warship Gunner 2 didn&#039;t even have a multiplayer component. Not even twin controllers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hardly limited to PC games. An obscure little game called Naval Ops: Warship Gunner 2 was VERY grindy and had increadibly exponential growth for the research costs on top of &#8220;Beat Mission EUR-02-99&#8243; or some shit like that. 10cm to 12cm guns (and new ammo types, caliber lengths and 2/3/4 barrels) starts cheap enough, but when you get to 50.8cm guns THEN you have to commit to new craft.</p>
<p>Oh, and Warship Gunner 2 didn&#8217;t even have a multiplayer component. Not even twin controllers.</p>
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		<title>By: RedShocktrooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedShocktrooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heroes used to be fun, actually. Back during Closed and Open Beta, up until December of &#039;09 it was the shit.

I occassionally boot up my 5-year-old account from back in the Beta Test to see how far it&#039;s fallen. On the plus side - we finally got our world conquest mode we were promised back in &#039;08!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heroes used to be fun, actually. Back during Closed and Open Beta, up until December of &#8217;09 it was the shit.</p>
<p>I occassionally boot up my 5-year-old account from back in the Beta Test to see how far it&#8217;s fallen. On the plus side &#8211; we finally got our world conquest mode we were promised back in &#8217;08!</p>
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		<title>By: RedShocktrooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedShocktrooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Nov 2013 22:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When that 15 bucks per month could be going to something else, he would put it towards something else. Not saying he would be poor, but if he decides the subscription game is not worth his money anymore, he cancels the subscription. However much money he poured into the game prior to that is lost, be it just one month or 2 years of payments.

If he decides to quit an F2P game, perhaps because it got a heavier P2W bent to it, the only cost lost into it is however much he decided to put into it, which is frequently just time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When that 15 bucks per month could be going to something else, he would put it towards something else. Not saying he would be poor, but if he decides the subscription game is not worth his money anymore, he cancels the subscription. However much money he poured into the game prior to that is lost, be it just one month or 2 years of payments.</p>
<p>If he decides to quit an F2P game, perhaps because it got a heavier P2W bent to it, the only cost lost into it is however much he decided to put into it, which is frequently just time.</p>
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