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	<title>Comments on: Beware the scammer, the thief, the hacker</title>
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		<title>By: Mauschen04</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91879</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mauschen04]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;they have to go against whoever pay for it.
Considering that it&#039;s difficult to catch eFraud as a government agency, Wargaming is hardly in a position to do more than patrol the new accounts it receives and hope the hackers are stupid enough to name their sockpuppet accounts abcdefg123 and associate it with 50 credit cards.

In addition, WG, like every other merchant which accepts credit cards, must pay around a 2-4% fee to the credit card company for every transaction.

Lastly: 
&quot;It is essential to understand that when you take a credit card payment, you are borrowing money — at least as far as the merchant service providers and their underwriters are concerned. The industry you are in, the type of business you do and your personal financial situation will be relevant to their perception of the risk involved. But I found, to my surprise, that the companies I dealt with were unimpressed by my perfect, multiyear record as a merchant with no chargebacks(a return of funds to a consumer).&quot; - New York Times

WG gets fucked as well by fraudulent purchases.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;they have to go against whoever pay for it.<br />
Considering that it&#8217;s difficult to catch eFraud as a government agency, Wargaming is hardly in a position to do more than patrol the new accounts it receives and hope the hackers are stupid enough to name their sockpuppet accounts abcdefg123 and associate it with 50 credit cards.</p>
<p>In addition, WG, like every other merchant which accepts credit cards, must pay around a 2-4% fee to the credit card company for every transaction.</p>
<p>Lastly:<br />
&#8220;It is essential to understand that when you take a credit card payment, you are borrowing money — at least as far as the merchant service providers and their underwriters are concerned. The industry you are in, the type of business you do and your personal financial situation will be relevant to their perception of the risk involved. But I found, to my surprise, that the companies I dealt with were unimpressed by my perfect, multiyear record as a merchant with no chargebacks(a return of funds to a consumer).&#8221; &#8211; New York Times</p>
<p>WG gets fucked as well by fraudulent purchases.</p>
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		<title>By: Mauschen04</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mauschen04]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Dec 2013 09:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One thing to note, WG mussied up their explanation of /why/ hackers would give away free gold at a discount. The money from the transaction itself isn&#039;t their chief concern, though your money is an added bonus. The point of &#039;carding&#039; is to verify the data necessary to use a stolen card. Victim B&#039;s money is cake icing for the primary goal of the operation, but is no less screwed when either the hacker finally maxes the card or the victim realizes his card is stolen.

So not only are you unwittingly abusing somebody else&#039;s credit card for no real gain, paying the hacker for services that will be taken so he profits, you are part of a scheme in order to validate the card&#039;s data in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to note, WG mussied up their explanation of /why/ hackers would give away free gold at a discount. The money from the transaction itself isn&#8217;t their chief concern, though your money is an added bonus. The point of &#8216;carding&#8217; is to verify the data necessary to use a stolen card. Victim B&#8217;s money is cake icing for the primary goal of the operation, but is no less screwed when either the hacker finally maxes the card or the victim realizes his card is stolen.</p>
<p>So not only are you unwittingly abusing somebody else&#8217;s credit card for no real gain, paying the hacker for services that will be taken so he profits, you are part of a scheme in order to validate the card&#8217;s data in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: orzel286</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orzel286]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right until you lose your account. Go ask Polish community, there was 300+ page rage topic about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right until you lose your account. Go ask Polish community, there was 300+ page rage topic about it.</p>
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		<title>By: orzel286</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91663</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orzel286]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It can take some time - some guys were banned after more than a half a year in the &quot;Allegro-gate&quot;.

And really - how can you make profit when you sell something 30% cheaper while having to pay the full price? When you don&#039;t buy with your own money and &quot;resell&quot; to deers that go for that &quot;-30%&quot; without using their brains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can take some time &#8211; some guys were banned after more than a half a year in the &#8220;Allegro-gate&#8221;.</p>
<p>And really &#8211; how can you make profit when you sell something 30% cheaper while having to pay the full price? When you don&#8217;t buy with your own money and &#8220;resell&#8221; to deers that go for that &#8220;-30%&#8221; without using their brains.</p>
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		<title>By: orzel286</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[orzel286]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Errr, wat? It&#039;s a warhammer 40k reference. &quot;Beware of the alien, the mutant, the heretic.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr, wat? It&#8217;s a warhammer 40k reference. &#8220;Beware of the alien, the mutant, the heretic.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: phoe</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://splur.gy/r/RJK56/r/2FWwhmPrV2B - Win a Razer mouse or World of Tanks gold, just like Razer fanpage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://splur.gy/r/RJK56/r/2FWwhmPrV2B" rel="nofollow">http://splur.gy/r/RJK56/r/2FWwhmPrV2B</a> &#8211; Win a Razer mouse or World of Tanks gold, just like Razer fanpage.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Vesirott</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Vesirott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SS,  just want to say you win +5 for paraphrasing Thief :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SS,  just want to say you win +5 for paraphrasing Thief :)</p>
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		<title>By: still_guns</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91594</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[still_guns]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 14:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good thing I always get my gold from the WoT website. Never will go anywhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thing I always get my gold from the WoT website. Never will go anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 13:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, only problem in this tank is to find good position]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, only problem in this tank is to find good position</p>
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		<title>By: Quineloe</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2013/12/04/beware-the-scammer-the-thief-the-hacker/#comment-91549</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quineloe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2013 12:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[no, you get your account banned until you pay off the gift. WG won&#039;t just take the gift away, even if it was possible (ie gold not spent yet). Because of that, you should never, ever accept gifts of any kind from anyone because it might cost you the account. 

That&#039;s a really reasonable situation - if you&#039;re a dimwit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, you get your account banned until you pay off the gift. WG won&#8217;t just take the gift away, even if it was possible (ie gold not spent yet). Because of that, you should never, ever accept gifts of any kind from anyone because it might cost you the account. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a really reasonable situation &#8211; if you&#8217;re a dimwit.</p>
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