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	<title>Comments on: Test 8.10: Vehicle Feedback &#8211; Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Leedar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leedar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 18:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can see how people could succeed in rear turret + bad depression + limited traverse (tried it myself), but it requires way too much effort. 430v2 is probably the most tolerable due to reasonable armour and accuracy, but I&#039;d rather be driving full traverse tanks and not have to worry about managing brawling situations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see how people could succeed in rear turret + bad depression + limited traverse (tried it myself), but it requires way too much effort. 430v2 is probably the most tolerable due to reasonable armour and accuracy, but I&#8217;d rather be driving full traverse tanks and not have to worry about managing brawling situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Takeda</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Takeda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 16:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you forgot the ELC AMX :D

I never played it but my brother did, and I usually see a lot of good-performing ELCs.. imo it is the best scout ever!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you forgot the ELC AMX :D</p>
<p>I never played it but my brother did, and I usually see a lot of good-performing ELCs.. imo it is the best scout ever!</p>
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		<title>By: akspecs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[akspecs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 09:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The T-62A and Obj 140 are way more alike than the 430.  The Obj 430 is a tier X version of the T-54.  Idk how one can complain much about these supposed clones as I enjoy the 140 and 62A, and Soviet tanks at this point of history all have their rounded turrets and look pretty similar.

If you are to rate the turrets out of 10, I&#039;d say the 62A comes in with a 10/10 turret, while the 430 is 9/10, and the 140 is 8/10.

The STB tier X Japanese medium also has a 8/10 turret, but it has -10 deg to match so it&#039;s a clear winner in this regard.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The T-62A and Obj 140 are way more alike than the 430.  The Obj 430 is a tier X version of the T-54.  Idk how one can complain much about these supposed clones as I enjoy the 140 and 62A, and Soviet tanks at this point of history all have their rounded turrets and look pretty similar.</p>
<p>If you are to rate the turrets out of 10, I&#8217;d say the 62A comes in with a 10/10 turret, while the 430 is 9/10, and the 140 is 8/10.</p>
<p>The STB tier X Japanese medium also has a 8/10 turret, but it has -10 deg to match so it&#8217;s a clear winner in this regard.</p>
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		<title>By: lzhalzx</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lzhalzx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 06:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d have to say the Type 5 Ke-Ho is better than T-80 at least.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to say the Type 5 Ke-Ho is better than T-80 at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Kauris Azurai</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kauris Azurai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[that&#039;s the only real huge flaw the thing has though. once you get to 50 you keep it rather well. see my post about light tank mm below for my whole opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s the only real huge flaw the thing has though. once you get to 50 you keep it rather well. see my post about light tank mm below for my whole opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kauris Azurai</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kauris Azurai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So? Scouts are awesome. see post below.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So? Scouts are awesome. see post below.</p>
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		<title>By: Kauris Azurai</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kauris Azurai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh reread. He did test with 100% crew. ignore that part of my post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh reread. He did test with 100% crew. ignore that part of my post.</p>
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		<title>By: Kauris Azurai</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kauris Azurai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Side note on a-20, pz38NA:
A-20 I will admit, has a pretty bad lot in life as a pure dedicated scout.
But the pz38NA is a pretty great passive scout I&#039;ve heard. however if it gets in its own tier I&#039;ve heard it gets steel walls. The positive reviews I&#039;ve heard for pz38NA are very bright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Side note on a-20, pz38NA:<br />
A-20 I will admit, has a pretty bad lot in life as a pure dedicated scout.<br />
But the pz38NA is a pretty great passive scout I&#8217;ve heard. however if it gets in its own tier I&#8217;ve heard it gets steel walls. The positive reviews I&#8217;ve heard for pz38NA are very bright.</p>
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		<title>By: Kauris Azurai</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kauris Azurai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would hate the nerfs my beloved scouts get more than I would love the mm change.

As I said before on youtube: 

You&#039;re not a scout driver are you? The 59-16 has the worst pen and damage out of all of the tier 6 lights and I wreaked havoc on a poor t110e5 in one game. As for the tier 4s? That m5 derp tracks many an enemy tank, and OBLITERATES many an arty, t49, hellcat, and waffle line td. Not to mention the fact it pwns other scouts.

The luchs has a 90 pen 300 damage machine gun. let that sink in..... Sunk in? good.
Luchs pwns.
T-50? It may no longer be overendowed with speed, but it turns so quickly it can VERY easily circle many a heavy tank to death, and its small size makes it perfect for hugging.

M5a1? Not my preffered light, but the people I&#039;ve asked why they like it say its gun is amazing for a tier 4 scout. It also has better engine power than its American counterpart. Shocking, I know. the Chinese usually have less.

The amx 12t has nothing to complain about. If driven properly it&#039;s another pwnage scout machine. You shouldn&#039;t ever shoot at the front of a t110e5 though. LOL

T71 pwns everything. nuff said.

I pwn with wz 131, I have stock gun.

I don&#039;t have wz 132.


The t21 wasn&#039;t bad. I didn&#039;t like it but I had a good score in it. most of my dislike probably stemmed from its shape. I also had many, many, many, lucky bounces in this tank.

I will be the first one to complain chaffee can&#039;t function in tier 10. However despite my greivances, that&#039;s a lie. The chaffee isn&#039;t an active scout, and I like to move too much. Thus my failure at tier 10 with chaffee. but when I&#039;ve played it like a sniper- I greatly succeed.

I tried to play leopard, found it shockingly different than luchs. sold it because I was too much of  an idiot to try to learn a new playstyle.

Vk2801 Don&#039;t have yet, no comment. I suspect it will be a fun derpage machine.

Aufklarungspanzer Panther. Do not have. no comment.

AMX 13 75 do not have, no comment.

AMX 13 90 same^

Mt-25. I played this on test. WOW the t-50-2 nerf whiners are many. this thing is REALLY fast. and very maneuverable. It&#039;s not the t-50-2 ROCKET, but it&#039;s balanced and fun. the tier 5 machine gun is hilarious(with like 40 shots), but majorly underpenned and should never be used in any serious circumstances.(THE ACPR HAS 62 PEN. WHAAAAAA)
The 75mm gun is VERY accurate. so the low pen of 112 is well compensated. This is a sniper.
It also has surprisingly ok armour.

I can&#039;t remember if there were any more, but here&#039;s my opinion.
Take it with a grain of salt, but light tanks are my favorite tanks, and I personally love the role light tanks carry. I also love shattering that role in a thousand pieces by doing high damage in mine by being an opportunist.

The challenge and thrill of taking a light out against higher tiers is exhilarating.
Its also the reason I love hybrid tanks like m7 and pz III/IV that most people hated. Honestly? those are awesome tanks. And m7 has a permanent home in my garage.

I hope you don&#039;t take my argument as an offence. But I think you&#039;re wrong.
If you made scouts have lower mm you&#039;d have to nerf the speed. and then No-one would play my favorite type of tanks. :(

Added notes about type 5 Ke-Ho: its acceleration isn&#039;t fast, but its camo seems rather amazingly good. It also has good enough soft stats that it WILL reach 50 kph.
It also does turn reasonably well. Did he test this thing with 100% crew? if not shame.

Its gun is better than the gun on the m5a1 that some light drivers seem to love. 6 more penetration really helps.
Binocs and camo seems the way to go, as it is with most of the Japanese line. Its gun is dangerous, and should be feared. 
Ammo count seems to be a small problem. there are only 60 rounds.
This thing is more than maneuverable enough to circle around the tier 8 tanks. 
I overtook an e-25 and annihilated him while I ran at 50kph(which really isn&#039;t hard to get to) and circled him. This thing is NOT slow. it accelerates only marginally slower than t-50 (Which also isn&#039;t slow, whiners), due to its soft stats.

Ke-Ho is a very stealthy tank. I like it. Whether or not I will keep it depends on how it performs on live.

Its downside is slow acceleration. But really, as long as you don&#039;t treat it like a tank that gets into situations it needs to be gone from in two miliseconds- then the acceleration will get you to 50 and keep you there rather well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would hate the nerfs my beloved scouts get more than I would love the mm change.</p>
<p>As I said before on youtube: </p>
<p>You&#8217;re not a scout driver are you? The 59-16 has the worst pen and damage out of all of the tier 6 lights and I wreaked havoc on a poor t110e5 in one game. As for the tier 4s? That m5 derp tracks many an enemy tank, and OBLITERATES many an arty, t49, hellcat, and waffle line td. Not to mention the fact it pwns other scouts.</p>
<p>The luchs has a 90 pen 300 damage machine gun. let that sink in&#8230;.. Sunk in? good.<br />
Luchs pwns.<br />
T-50? It may no longer be overendowed with speed, but it turns so quickly it can VERY easily circle many a heavy tank to death, and its small size makes it perfect for hugging.</p>
<p>M5a1? Not my preffered light, but the people I&#8217;ve asked why they like it say its gun is amazing for a tier 4 scout. It also has better engine power than its American counterpart. Shocking, I know. the Chinese usually have less.</p>
<p>The amx 12t has nothing to complain about. If driven properly it&#8217;s another pwnage scout machine. You shouldn&#8217;t ever shoot at the front of a t110e5 though. LOL</p>
<p>T71 pwns everything. nuff said.</p>
<p>I pwn with wz 131, I have stock gun.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have wz 132.</p>
<p>The t21 wasn&#8217;t bad. I didn&#8217;t like it but I had a good score in it. most of my dislike probably stemmed from its shape. I also had many, many, many, lucky bounces in this tank.</p>
<p>I will be the first one to complain chaffee can&#8217;t function in tier 10. However despite my greivances, that&#8217;s a lie. The chaffee isn&#8217;t an active scout, and I like to move too much. Thus my failure at tier 10 with chaffee. but when I&#8217;ve played it like a sniper- I greatly succeed.</p>
<p>I tried to play leopard, found it shockingly different than luchs. sold it because I was too much of  an idiot to try to learn a new playstyle.</p>
<p>Vk2801 Don&#8217;t have yet, no comment. I suspect it will be a fun derpage machine.</p>
<p>Aufklarungspanzer Panther. Do not have. no comment.</p>
<p>AMX 13 75 do not have, no comment.</p>
<p>AMX 13 90 same^</p>
<p>Mt-25. I played this on test. WOW the t-50-2 nerf whiners are many. this thing is REALLY fast. and very maneuverable. It&#8217;s not the t-50-2 ROCKET, but it&#8217;s balanced and fun. the tier 5 machine gun is hilarious(with like 40 shots), but majorly underpenned and should never be used in any serious circumstances.(THE ACPR HAS 62 PEN. WHAAAAAA)<br />
The 75mm gun is VERY accurate. so the low pen of 112 is well compensated. This is a sniper.<br />
It also has surprisingly ok armour.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember if there were any more, but here&#8217;s my opinion.<br />
Take it with a grain of salt, but light tanks are my favorite tanks, and I personally love the role light tanks carry. I also love shattering that role in a thousand pieces by doing high damage in mine by being an opportunist.</p>
<p>The challenge and thrill of taking a light out against higher tiers is exhilarating.<br />
Its also the reason I love hybrid tanks like m7 and pz III/IV that most people hated. Honestly? those are awesome tanks. And m7 has a permanent home in my garage.</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t take my argument as an offence. But I think you&#8217;re wrong.<br />
If you made scouts have lower mm you&#8217;d have to nerf the speed. and then No-one would play my favorite type of tanks. :(</p>
<p>Added notes about type 5 Ke-Ho: its acceleration isn&#8217;t fast, but its camo seems rather amazingly good. It also has good enough soft stats that it WILL reach 50 kph.<br />
It also does turn reasonably well. Did he test this thing with 100% crew? if not shame.</p>
<p>Its gun is better than the gun on the m5a1 that some light drivers seem to love. 6 more penetration really helps.<br />
Binocs and camo seems the way to go, as it is with most of the Japanese line. Its gun is dangerous, and should be feared.<br />
Ammo count seems to be a small problem. there are only 60 rounds.<br />
This thing is more than maneuverable enough to circle around the tier 8 tanks.<br />
I overtook an e-25 and annihilated him while I ran at 50kph(which really isn&#8217;t hard to get to) and circled him. This thing is NOT slow. it accelerates only marginally slower than t-50 (Which also isn&#8217;t slow, whiners), due to its soft stats.</p>
<p>Ke-Ho is a very stealthy tank. I like it. Whether or not I will keep it depends on how it performs on live.</p>
<p>Its downside is slow acceleration. But really, as long as you don&#8217;t treat it like a tank that gets into situations it needs to be gone from in two miliseconds- then the acceleration will get you to 50 and keep you there rather well.</p>
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		<title>By: Captian Nemo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Captian Nemo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 03:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do run the FT 75 BS (rammer and vents) and it will bounce quite a bit. But it still dies easily. But I have high hopes for the Tier 1.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do run the FT 75 BS (rammer and vents) and it will bounce quite a bit. But it still dies easily. But I have high hopes for the Tier 1.</p>
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