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		<title>By: Septfox Malkier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Septfox Malkier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ZiS-30...

Take a UE 57, make it taller and slower, and give it bigger teeth?

Dunno if the 57mm and presumably wide gun traverse would fit in at tier 3, maybe tier 4.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZiS-30&#8230;</p>
<p>Take a UE 57, make it taller and slower, and give it bigger teeth?</p>
<p>Dunno if the 57mm and presumably wide gun traverse would fit in at tier 3, maybe tier 4.</p>
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		<title>By: Septfox Malkier</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Septfox Malkier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skimming Wikipedia&#039;s article got me the following:
13mm of armor, not sloped
~12hp/t (a whopping 82hp driving 6.5 tons), ~50kph (64 max, 38 &quot;average&quot;)
7.5mm, 13.2mm or 25mm gun, depending on the turret

So it&#039;d be poorly armored, slightly sluggish from a standstill but decently quick, and if the current French 25mm gun is any indication, a fast-firing gun with low alpha but pretty oK penetration. Assuming WG wasn&#039;t infected with another case of Stupiditus and armed it with one of the MGs.

Not exactly a stereotypical French low-tier tank, and definitely T18 food if care isn&#039;t taken. Seems like it would make an alright tier 2 (with normal MM) or 3 ( very limited MM) premium or gift.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skimming Wikipedia&#8217;s article got me the following:<br />
13mm of armor, not sloped<br />
~12hp/t (a whopping 82hp driving 6.5 tons), ~50kph (64 max, 38 &#8220;average&#8221;)<br />
7.5mm, 13.2mm or 25mm gun, depending on the turret</p>
<p>So it&#8217;d be poorly armored, slightly sluggish from a standstill but decently quick, and if the current French 25mm gun is any indication, a fast-firing gun with low alpha but pretty oK penetration. Assuming WG wasn&#8217;t infected with another case of Stupiditus and armed it with one of the MGs.</p>
<p>Not exactly a stereotypical French low-tier tank, and definitely T18 food if care isn&#8217;t taken. Seems like it would make an alright tier 2 (with normal MM) or 3 ( very limited MM) premium or gift.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikolaevna</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nikolaevna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or better still, why didn&#039;t they add the Achilles in the first Brit TD line? Instead we get paper AT tanks and have to bloody wait longer for the likes of the Achilles and Firefly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or better still, why didn&#8217;t they add the Achilles in the first Brit TD line? Instead we get paper AT tanks and have to bloody wait longer for the likes of the Achilles and Firefly.</p>
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		<title>By: 23r0_NA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[23r0_NA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 02:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For some reason I can see the Achilles being a premium on the British tree, or on the Lend-Lease tree as an alternative to the Firefly, or hell, what if they added a second TD line to that tree starting from tier 5 off of the Alecto like the existing one?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some reason I can see the Achilles being a premium on the British tree, or on the Lend-Lease tree as an alternative to the Firefly, or hell, what if they added a second TD line to that tree starting from tier 5 off of the Alecto like the existing one?</p>
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		<title>By: 23r0_NA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[23r0_NA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 00:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In some cases they&#039;re the only options for certain niche roles.

For instance, Germany doesn&#039;t appear to have any suitable candidates for a cheap, mid-tier premium Heavy in the same vein as the Churchill III, T14 and Excelsior, largely because any tanks that might have fit that role are already in the game as regular vehicles.  The most obvious candidate, in this instance, if one is willing to consider captured vehicles, would be the Panzerkampfwagen 735 (r).  In a nutshell, it&#039;s a captured KV-1, but with a few key differences, namely that instead of the 76 mm F-34 it has the 75 mm KwK 40 L/43 -a gun available on the Panzer III/IV, Panzer IV, VK 30.01H and available in more or less modified form on the Hetzer and Marder 38t - a gun that is good at its tier but not the best gun available for the regular tier 5 German tanks (unless you&#039;re driving a Marder 38t, in which case I feel your pain), and it has a larger commander&#039;s cupola of the type seen on the Panzer III (making an obvious weakspot that the regular KV-1 doesn&#039;t have).

Overall it&#039;d a balanced vehicle at tier 5 - good, but not TOO good, having a more accurate 75 mm gun than the stock 76 mm gun on the original KV-1, but in exchange for having an obvious and fairly large weakspot on top of the turret in the form of the commander&#039;s cupola, all in all allowing it to perform like a semi-upgraded KV-1, or like a VK.3001 H that actually has decent armor but a worse gun.  However, for some reason WG decided to say they would add no more captured vehicles after the French tree was added...and then it&#039;s revealed that they intend to give a shit-ton of captured vehicles to the SOVIET tree (a captured Panzer IV, Panther, two TDs built on the Panzer III chassis to name a few)...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some cases they&#8217;re the only options for certain niche roles.</p>
<p>For instance, Germany doesn&#8217;t appear to have any suitable candidates for a cheap, mid-tier premium Heavy in the same vein as the Churchill III, T14 and Excelsior, largely because any tanks that might have fit that role are already in the game as regular vehicles.  The most obvious candidate, in this instance, if one is willing to consider captured vehicles, would be the Panzerkampfwagen 735 (r).  In a nutshell, it&#8217;s a captured KV-1, but with a few key differences, namely that instead of the 76 mm F-34 it has the 75 mm KwK 40 L/43 -a gun available on the Panzer III/IV, Panzer IV, VK 30.01H and available in more or less modified form on the Hetzer and Marder 38t &#8211; a gun that is good at its tier but not the best gun available for the regular tier 5 German tanks (unless you&#8217;re driving a Marder 38t, in which case I feel your pain), and it has a larger commander&#8217;s cupola of the type seen on the Panzer III (making an obvious weakspot that the regular KV-1 doesn&#8217;t have).</p>
<p>Overall it&#8217;d a balanced vehicle at tier 5 &#8211; good, but not TOO good, having a more accurate 75 mm gun than the stock 76 mm gun on the original KV-1, but in exchange for having an obvious and fairly large weakspot on top of the turret in the form of the commander&#8217;s cupola, all in all allowing it to perform like a semi-upgraded KV-1, or like a VK.3001 H that actually has decent armor but a worse gun.  However, for some reason WG decided to say they would add no more captured vehicles after the French tree was added&#8230;and then it&#8217;s revealed that they intend to give a shit-ton of captured vehicles to the SOVIET tree (a captured Panzer IV, Panther, two TDs built on the Panzer III chassis to name a few)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: 23r0_NA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[23r0_NA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 00:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The T3 HMC frankly is the one vehicle that I personally look forward to the most of the vehicles listed.

If it replaces the T18, then maybe at long last the weapon of choice of seal clubbers will disappear, and allow it to more or less be a regular game down low so that the noobs at least have somewhat of a fighting chance, rather than players being separated into two distinct categories: winners (read: T18 Drivers) and everybody else.

On the other hand I myself use a T18, but I don&#039;t drive it anywhere near as often as I used to, primarily because I find it boring.  That being said, replacing the T18 would defeat the purpose of me having my Cruiser III at all (the sole reason I got one was to counter T18s, which it does very well with the 2-pounder Mk.X, so long as it doesn&#039;t get shot at)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The T3 HMC frankly is the one vehicle that I personally look forward to the most of the vehicles listed.</p>
<p>If it replaces the T18, then maybe at long last the weapon of choice of seal clubbers will disappear, and allow it to more or less be a regular game down low so that the noobs at least have somewhat of a fighting chance, rather than players being separated into two distinct categories: winners (read: T18 Drivers) and everybody else.</p>
<p>On the other hand I myself use a T18, but I don&#8217;t drive it anywhere near as often as I used to, primarily because I find it boring.  That being said, replacing the T18 would defeat the purpose of me having my Cruiser III at all (the sole reason I got one was to counter T18s, which it does very well with the 2-pounder Mk.X, so long as it doesn&#8217;t get shot at)</p>
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		<title>By: Phaethon666</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the best way to fix the tank is the separation into 2 tiers with minor tweaks to both.  Give the 76mm Hellcat T5 MM and give it some of the historical attributes like good turning/acceleration and keep the slightly inferior 76mm at a reasonable tier, then turn the Super hellcat into T6 and nerf the speed a tiny bit more than the current one is based on extra weight of the m36 turret. 
 My reasoning for this is kinda simple,  The current hellcat is hated by players who don&#039;t have one because it scoots along at a fairly fast pace, can hide if need be, but mostly gets used as an early game interceptor of the opposite team&#039;s scout tanks and fast mediums.  If the 90mm version were to be a tad slower but retain good view range and radio, it would function more like other TDs and less like a heat seeking missile :-P]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the best way to fix the tank is the separation into 2 tiers with minor tweaks to both.  Give the 76mm Hellcat T5 MM and give it some of the historical attributes like good turning/acceleration and keep the slightly inferior 76mm at a reasonable tier, then turn the Super hellcat into T6 and nerf the speed a tiny bit more than the current one is based on extra weight of the m36 turret.<br />
 My reasoning for this is kinda simple,  The current hellcat is hated by players who don&#8217;t have one because it scoots along at a fairly fast pace, can hide if need be, but mostly gets used as an early game interceptor of the opposite team&#8217;s scout tanks and fast mediums.  If the 90mm version were to be a tad slower but retain good view range and radio, it would function more like other TDs and less like a heat seeking missile :-P</p>
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		<title>By: ilyakovlev</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ilyakovlev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 20:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i wonder if those &#039;torpedoes&#039; are ammorackable...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder if those &#8216;torpedoes&#8217; are ammorackable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RedShocktrooper</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedShocktrooper]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s French. The last French premium of that tier (the Hotchkiss H39) still holds the title of Minimaus for a reason.

If it&#039;s as well armored as other French tanks of the tier, I suspect it will be very competent at not dying to T18 howitzers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s French. The last French premium of that tier (the Hotchkiss H39) still holds the title of Minimaus for a reason.</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s as well armored as other French tanks of the tier, I suspect it will be very competent at not dying to T18 howitzers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bossgineer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bossgineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 19:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remove the 90mm from the tier 6 Hellcat making the 76mm M1A2 be it&#039;s top gun and put the Super Hellcat at tier 7. There, fix&#039;d.

Seriously, how is the Hellcat at tier 6 having the same gun as the Jackson balanced? It makes the Jackson totally useless since the Hellcat is a 1000 times better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remove the 90mm from the tier 6 Hellcat making the 76mm M1A2 be it&#8217;s top gun and put the Super Hellcat at tier 7. There, fix&#8217;d.</p>
<p>Seriously, how is the Hellcat at tier 6 having the same gun as the Jackson balanced? It makes the Jackson totally useless since the Hellcat is a 1000 times better.</p>
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