Comments on: 2014: Type 59 versus T-34-3

By: 23r0_NA

23r0_NA — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 16:32:57 +0000

The Type 59′s reputation is inflated because of how it used to perform as well as its rarity, and the fact that the guys who didn’t rig contests to get them typically have played the tank for quite a while and know how to drive it.

Disregarding player skill, however, in a one vs one engagement I would much rather take on a Type 59 than a T-34-3. The T-34-3 isn’t sluggish to accelerate, or at least not as much as the Type 59, can turn well at high speeds, and while having slightly-less penetration on the gun (for regular ammo – premium penetration is better, but it gets HEAT while the Type 59 gets APCR) and far less accuracy does quite a bit more damage (plus the inaccuracy becomes irrelevant due to how the tank is supposed to be used, as a close-range flanker).

The only problem that makes the T-34-3 seem underpowered compared to the Type 59 is a combination of a bias in favor of the Type 59 because of its credit-earning ability and its rarity these days, as well as the fact that there aren’t a whole lot of good T-34-3 drivers, partly because players haven’t had the time to rack up massive numbers of battles in it like a lot of Type 59 drivers have.

By: franz-hofmann

franz-hofmann — Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:34:26 +0000

Dont forget its premium tank, it is suppose to be weaker than normal tier 8 meds. Type 59 was just WG balance fuck up.

By: MaterielDefender

MaterielDefender — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 14:22:28 +0000

Why would that make it not a premium? It has all premium tank benefits, like better income, lower repair cost, and the ability to train other Chinese medium tank crews in it.

It *is* a premium tank.

By: existentialvoid .

existentialvoid . — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:16:01 +0000

something to add really quick here -

nope, working as intended was the last word. They are ‘unnerfing’ the FCM. . .

By: existentialvoid .

existentialvoid . — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 13:00:18 +0000

it is not a premium, it is a special’ tank.that is not offered anymore. . .

By: existentialvoid .

existentialvoid . — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 12:55:39 +0000

The type 59 is superior – by a long shot.

The problem is not the gun depression, or the low pen, or the low aim time – the problem is that accuracy.

I will gladly use tactics and pick fights, set up shots and aim, flank and aim for weakpoints – but 0.46 accuracy is the one thing that cannot be overcome.

It needs either a much faster aim time (2.3), or better accuracy (0.4 minimum, o.37 ideal). . .or. . . give us 440 alpha (but that may be a bit OP)

By: xidex

xidex — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:19:57 +0000

I forgot to mention that also camo factor is lower on T-34-3.
*I wrote Type 69 instead 59 :P

By: xidex

xidex — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:12:15 +0000

Well to sum up differences between Type 69 and T-34-3. Here they are:
T-34-3 :
- got weaker armor frontaly and sides (turret and hull)
- 3 degrees of gun depression vs Type’s 7
- lower elevation angle too
- worse DPM
- somehow a tiny bit slower than Type (just a little bit)
- maximum speed of 50 km/h comaring to Type’s 56 km/h

For gun T-34-3 lacks gun depression and you feel it a lot in game. Gun aiming time and “accuracy” does not help it too. But its very derpy. All in all its very hard to perform great with this vehicle. Plus I forgot to mention – T-34-3′s money making ability is more than poor while taking into account it costs 11000 golds.

Type is allround better and when it comes to moneymaking its the best one while T-34-3 is the worst.
http://www.vbaddict.net/statistics.php?tier=8&tanktype=0&nation=0&premium=2&team=0&battles=1000&groupby=0&fieldname=creditsb

By: Lawrence Tierney

Lawrence Tierney — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 10:33:10 +0000

I’ve got a Type and tbh I hardly ever drive it anymore.

Feels like “powercreep” has really affected it: used to feel strong in it’s Tier but not anymore :(

By: eXistenZ333 .

eXistenZ333 . — Wed, 22 Jan 2014 01:14:44 +0000

you can simply try T-34-2 with 100mm gun and 122mm gun and you will see difference between Type 59 and T-34-3 :)