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		<title>By: martin4x4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[martin4x4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 12:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[177mm on Fatton IIRC. Anyway, when abusing hills which gives few additional degrees of angle, it does bounce. I had to take it to CW on El Halluf (we were out of better meds) and we all were surprised how much punishment it could handle. It was quite funny that I actually found use for that cupola, sticking out only that and spotting that way, they could not hit it. If they did manage to hit me, it was mostly because I showed too much of turret and even then it bounced. I think against me were E5, Foch and E4, only Foch penned me once in turret and once E5 hit cupola. Our arties subsequently took all out. 

Regarding E50M, it has only small space on turret front, most of it covered by mantlet and gun. Also there is some small angle on it, around 15 degrees I think. But as far as I remember, if I hit that front with stronger gun or under better angle (negating front turret armor angle), it pens. 

The size does matter. I was quite surprised when I mounted top turret on M46. It really  reduced the occurance of being hit in it as well it produced some funny bounces when they hit bad angles. And that feeling when you bounce in that thing... it is like you were born second time :) so far M46 was my favorite medium, even when in T54 it is much easier to win since it can even brawl. Heck, I took head on M103 E75 and T29 in T54 at the same time and won. Few more degrees of angle can always make a miracle, especially it you already have some, like E50M turret or Fatton.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>177mm on Fatton IIRC. Anyway, when abusing hills which gives few additional degrees of angle, it does bounce. I had to take it to CW on El Halluf (we were out of better meds) and we all were surprised how much punishment it could handle. It was quite funny that I actually found use for that cupola, sticking out only that and spotting that way, they could not hit it. If they did manage to hit me, it was mostly because I showed too much of turret and even then it bounced. I think against me were E5, Foch and E4, only Foch penned me once in turret and once E5 hit cupola. Our arties subsequently took all out. </p>
<p>Regarding E50M, it has only small space on turret front, most of it covered by mantlet and gun. Also there is some small angle on it, around 15 degrees I think. But as far as I remember, if I hit that front with stronger gun or under better angle (negating front turret armor angle), it pens. </p>
<p>The size does matter. I was quite surprised when I mounted top turret on M46. It really  reduced the occurance of being hit in it as well it produced some funny bounces when they hit bad angles. And that feeling when you bounce in that thing&#8230; it is like you were born second time :) so far M46 was my favorite medium, even when in T54 it is much easier to win since it can even brawl. Heck, I took head on M103 E75 and T29 in T54 at the same time and won. Few more degrees of angle can always make a miracle, especially it you already have some, like E50M turret or Fatton.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Mesiroff</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad Mesiroff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 09:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[-9 is crap when its on a M48 which is spotted like a heavy, has armor like a paper tank, has slowest accel and ontop of it massive tumor on turret.

Sry that isnt balanced. Also who cares if the T96 is great, only 3k will be on server.

M48 is sooo UP anyway you slice it, it is bottom 2 in most categories, that isnt jack of all trades it is only master of none.

DPM its mid-low
ROF mid-low
HullDown mid [but huge weakspot and weak turret]
Speed lowest
Camo lowest

So if you want depression there is literally no reason to not go Japanese over it...
Its much faster, has -1 better depression, has .3 aimtime worse [Lol] Much sleeker body and turret, better DPM and same alpha and 1/3rd better camo and 10m less view...Lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-9 is crap when its on a M48 which is spotted like a heavy, has armor like a paper tank, has slowest accel and ontop of it massive tumor on turret.</p>
<p>Sry that isnt balanced. Also who cares if the T96 is great, only 3k will be on server.</p>
<p>M48 is sooo UP anyway you slice it, it is bottom 2 in most categories, that isnt jack of all trades it is only master of none.</p>
<p>DPM its mid-low<br />
ROF mid-low<br />
HullDown mid [but huge weakspot and weak turret]<br />
Speed lowest<br />
Camo lowest</p>
<p>So if you want depression there is literally no reason to not go Japanese over it&#8230;<br />
Its much faster, has -1 better depression, has .3 aimtime worse [Lol] Much sleeker body and turret, better DPM and same alpha and 1/3rd better camo and 10m less view&#8230;Lol</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Mesiroff</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/01/24/8-11-supertester-vehicle-stats/#comment-111124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad Mesiroff]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They do have US meds much weaker than RL. Esp a Iconic gamechanger like the T96

I mean it was first ever laminate armor, first Smoothbore`d tank that was a stable firing platform, first of its kind in rangefinding and firecontrol....All in all totally revolutionary . 

Even though it wasnt produced it had nothing to do with it not being amazing. It all came down to it being to advanced and unable to build mass numbers, and since we relied on huge numbers in WW2 and won using this method obviously this was the waY TO GO RIGHT? Lol yes fight the USSR with numbers and we would have surely won [Not]

Anyways the ingame T96 cant ever match RL`s version or else it would be massively OP and basically make Heavies useless and Meds would get bullied. Only thing that would keep up/beat it would be T64 and MBT70

Also they are only giving -8 degrees to M103/E5 and probably E6.

About Rus meds being OP, they are...They have amazing bounce armor, amazing DPM and OTM accuracy and a shot every 5.5 secs [Like slow autoloader than never ends] and all of it with WAY MORE depression than normal. IN RL -5 is generous for the Rus MBT`s and things like 907+430 were -3.

So Ruski meds get everything.

So instead of doing things like making US heavies great and all there meds suck, and all Rus meds gr8 and Heavies suck why not mix both? 

M48 needs its old DPM of 3k+, remember when it was released it was even with the 62a...Then they nerfed it. M48 has no armor, now has no Depression advantage ontop of having a super weak turret, on top of being slowest [fattest] hull down tank, ontop of having worse camo...It needs something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do have US meds much weaker than RL. Esp a Iconic gamechanger like the T96</p>
<p>I mean it was first ever laminate armor, first Smoothbore`d tank that was a stable firing platform, first of its kind in rangefinding and firecontrol&#8230;.All in all totally revolutionary . </p>
<p>Even though it wasnt produced it had nothing to do with it not being amazing. It all came down to it being to advanced and unable to build mass numbers, and since we relied on huge numbers in WW2 and won using this method obviously this was the waY TO GO RIGHT? Lol yes fight the USSR with numbers and we would have surely won [Not]</p>
<p>Anyways the ingame T96 cant ever match RL`s version or else it would be massively OP and basically make Heavies useless and Meds would get bullied. Only thing that would keep up/beat it would be T64 and MBT70</p>
<p>Also they are only giving -8 degrees to M103/E5 and probably E6.</p>
<p>About Rus meds being OP, they are&#8230;They have amazing bounce armor, amazing DPM and OTM accuracy and a shot every 5.5 secs [Like slow autoloader than never ends] and all of it with WAY MORE depression than normal. IN RL -5 is generous for the Rus MBT`s and things like 907+430 were -3.</p>
<p>So Ruski meds get everything.</p>
<p>So instead of doing things like making US heavies great and all there meds suck, and all Rus meds gr8 and Heavies suck why not mix both? </p>
<p>M48 needs its old DPM of 3k+, remember when it was released it was even with the 62a&#8230;Then they nerfed it. M48 has no armor, now has no Depression advantage ontop of having a super weak turret, on top of being slowest [fattest] hull down tank, ontop of having worse camo&#8230;It needs something.</p>
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		<title>By: ApplesauceBandit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ApplesauceBandit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 08:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that this program gets matchmaking spread for tanks from third party sources (because that information is not included in the client).  Because the tank has not been released yet, only WG and ST know what the MM spread for it is.  +/- 2 is just what the program shows be default.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that this program gets matchmaking spread for tanks from third party sources (because that information is not included in the client).  Because the tank has not been released yet, only WG and ST know what the MM spread for it is.  +/- 2 is just what the program shows be default.</p>
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		<title>By: Zulko</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/01/24/8-11-supertester-vehicle-stats/#comment-111102</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zulko]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Valentine II and  Matilda IV have historical guns, but Russian ones, changed from original. And about T-25 AFAIK it has historical gun but nerfed a little bit]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valentine II and  Matilda IV have historical guns, but Russian ones, changed from original. And about T-25 AFAIK it has historical gun but nerfed a little bit</p>
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		<title>By: EternalFlame</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[EternalFlame]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 01:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, the turret cheeks of the T95E6 would be much better than the M48
but the commander cupola....
you&#039;ll get sth like zis
http://youtu.be/qOWg9sEJirE]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, the turret cheeks of the T95E6 would be much better than the M48<br />
but the commander cupola&#8230;.<br />
you&#8217;ll get sth like zis<br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/qOWg9sEJirE" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/qOWg9sEJirE</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bálint Juhász</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bálint Juhász]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:38:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, don&#039;t you realize, that it has a strong mantlet and that&#039;s all? Some random bounces may occour but no more. And look at that cupola! Almost as big as the turret itself...
Anyway, do you guys remember what people were saying when the Pershing-Patton change happened? &quot;Patton has really nice slope, it will bounce everything!&quot; I don&#039;t know if you have played the Patton or not, but emmm... it doesn&#039;t really bounce anything, and if it does, it is surely a shot trap.
That&#039;s how it goes with the american mediums. But here is another example: M48 180mm (or 170?) turret front vs E50M 185mm turret front. What I don&#039;t understand is that E50M bounces a lot of stuff with that 185mm (I&#039;m talking about the flat part, not mantlet, of course), while M48&#039;s 170 or 180 turret is penetrated by almost every shot!  But if you think about it that 10-15mm doesn&#039;t make that much difference, at least in my opinion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, don&#8217;t you realize, that it has a strong mantlet and that&#8217;s all? Some random bounces may occour but no more. And look at that cupola! Almost as big as the turret itself&#8230;<br />
Anyway, do you guys remember what people were saying when the Pershing-Patton change happened? &#8220;Patton has really nice slope, it will bounce everything!&#8221; I don&#8217;t know if you have played the Patton or not, but emmm&#8230; it doesn&#8217;t really bounce anything, and if it does, it is surely a shot trap.<br />
That&#8217;s how it goes with the american mediums. But here is another example: M48 180mm (or 170?) turret front vs E50M 185mm turret front. What I don&#8217;t understand is that E50M bounces a lot of stuff with that 185mm (I&#8217;m talking about the flat part, not mantlet, of course), while M48&#8242;s 170 or 180 turret is penetrated by almost every shot!  But if you think about it that 10-15mm doesn&#8217;t make that much difference, at least in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Bálint Juhász</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bálint Juhász]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 00:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hah, that&#039;s the part where you are wrong! I most probably end up having one. And of course I&#039;m complaining about my future tank. I wouldn&#039;t give a sh*t if I didn&#039;t expect myself to have one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, that&#8217;s the part where you are wrong! I most probably end up having one. And of course I&#8217;m complaining about my future tank. I wouldn&#8217;t give a sh*t if I didn&#8217;t expect myself to have one.</p>
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		<title>By: Breakalegs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breakalegs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[umm. ain&#039;t americans supposed to be the jack-of-all-trades? and please don&#039;t whine about having -9 depression, if you want depression play chinese 121. and would you tell me what is the worst T10 in the game? since i think they&#039;re quite balanced except for TD&#039;s. oh and if you think T23E3 is rubbish, it&#039;s stats is quite comparable to PantherM10]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>umm. ain&#8217;t americans supposed to be the jack-of-all-trades? and please don&#8217;t whine about having -9 depression, if you want depression play chinese 121. and would you tell me what is the worst T10 in the game? since i think they&#8217;re quite balanced except for TD&#8217;s. oh and if you think T23E3 is rubbish, it&#8217;s stats is quite comparable to PantherM10</p>
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		<title>By: Breakalegs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Breakalegs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dat slope!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dat slope!!</p>
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