Comments on: Removal of battletier 12 – what does it mean?

By: Noticias del 19 y 20 de Febrero. | Wot y Leaks

Noticias del 19 y 20 de Febrero. | Wot y Leaks — Thu, 20 Feb 2014 21:12:43 +0000

[...] es cierto que tras la desaparición del battletier 12, los vehículos de Tier IX salgan todo el rato en la parte baja de las tablas en las partidas. [...]

By: rasco4000

rasco4000 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:06:00 +0000

All this is speculation as personally I think MM is broken and this is not a fix.
The problem with MM is the way it balances the teams 25% needs to be cut down to 20 or 15 as there is to much potential for the game to be flawed. Also all tanks need a individual battle weight not this generic tier trash, a amx acmile is crap compared to a tiger or a t29 is op vs a t25-2.

This system is flawed there is no point in trying to get wargaming to fix it as this proves that all they care about is how it preforms on the Russian server’s

By: rasco4000

rasco4000 — Thu, 13 Feb 2014 05:58:32 +0000

there is no system for this

battle tier only shows What tanks can get into a battle, This is proven in the original post where he said that you will still get only tier 10 battles if what you said is true there should only ever be a limit number of tier 10s in any battle

this fixes the RU issue but screws every body who did not have a overflow of tier 8s

By: rasco4000

rasco4000 — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:50:29 +0000

im sry but again if there are 30 players and 33% of them have to get tier 12 battles where is the 10 tier 10 tanks that would going into the battle going to go

By: rasco4000

rasco4000 — Wed, 12 Feb 2014 18:42:41 +0000

no hes not

the problem is not that you will see more battles with tier 10 tanks being the top tier it’s that there will be more of these tier 10 tank in each battle.

e.g. if there is 30 tier 10 tanks in que then pre patch you would have

10 battle tier 12
10 battle tier 11
10 battle tier 10

After patch you have

15 battle tier 11
15 battle tier 10

so this means that you will see 5 more tier 10 tanks in your tier 8 games as the tanks that stop going into battle tier 12 go into battle tier 10.

Its not that you will be lower tier more often, its that lower tier will make up way less of the battle weight for that battle now

By: Quineloe

Quineloe — Sat, 08 Feb 2014 11:10:34 +0000

I’ve seen battles with 14 tanks of the top tier in the battle and ONE tank of the bottom tier on each side. So I don’t think such a system exists.

By: alex sonny

alex sonny — Sat, 08 Feb 2014 10:39:15 +0000

I have disproved the “there will be more T10s with T8s” thing plenty of times. I still had to copy it all over the place as you don’t read other comments before posting yours.
And stop with your conspiracy bullshit, it can’t be further from the truth.

By: alex sonny

alex sonny — Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:40:29 +0000

A lot of those 2 T10 vs 7 T10 are old pictures, or absurd creations of MM weight.. sure, one side has 7 T10s, but it also has 0~2 T9s and shitty T8s, while the other team has more T9s or vehicles with high MM weight.
I once saw a match where one team had an IS-4 and then like Pershings and scouts, while the other didn’t have a T10 but had 6 type 59s. This happens with small numbers of queueing vehicles, resulting in waiting times, which consequently relax the MM rules.
On EU server, the worst I’ve ever seen was a Tier 8 only battle yesterday. I’ve never seen such extreme cases, or maybe three in my two years of playing. I do however play at times when there are plenty of vehicles – in the evening, in the weekend.
If you play at 2 AM however, anything can happen when there is maybe 1% of players online.

By: alex sonny

alex sonny — Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:33:50 +0000

To answer your T9 dillema: 66% of the time being -1 tier is bad? Think of this like a tank with prefferential matchmaking – it only gets to see one tier higher, like the Superpershing or Panther M10. It is true, however, that T9s will spend 66% being -1 tier while Panther M10 will spend just 50% being -1 tier. But I don’t really mind that, most tier 9 vehicles are able to fight T10s just fine (M103, IS-8, T30 and other stuff with big guns – WZ-120)

And I am 100% certain that there is a rule about the ammount of T10s in a battle, because most battles are pretty uniform – 4 T10s 5 T9s and rest T8.
Of ciurse there are battles with lots of T10s or a T10 and a T9 and 13 T8s, but those are the retaerded offspring of small numbers of vehicles in the MM system, so other rules override it – equal battletier spread, or MM weight.

By: alex sonny

alex sonny — Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:30:27 +0000

Not entirely true, I debunked that too, lemme copy that here:
Because battletier 12 will be removed, there will be more T10s free to fill up the T10 spaces in battles with T8s and T9s. You assume that because there will be more T10s available, MM will just shove them into games with T8s.
That is, however, not the case. The number of T10s matched with T8s will stay the same, but there will be more games with T8s, T9s and T10s in the battle.
Example: MM needs 7 T8s, 5 T9s and 3 T10s. Currently, MM has 14 T8s, 10 T9s and 3 T10s (because most T10s are in battletier 12 matches) and can only create one match with those, the rest will have to wait.
But now, more T10s will free up (let’s say three more) and it will be able to make two such matches.
So the number of T10 matches will increase, not the ammount of T10s in those battles.