Comments on: ASAP 9.0

By: ClassicFrog (EU)

ClassicFrog (EU) — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:16:35 +0000

Oh, so 100mm was an option for IS 2 then? I see.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:50:15 +0000

I’ve read Soviet combat engineers – or at least, some specialist assault engineer units – were issued captured ‘fausts en masse for expedient demolition duties. :/

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:48:18 +0000

100mm was considered as an option, but the 122mm won out as it was more readily available (an AFV version already existed IIRC, whereas that of the 100mm was still in developement) and due to meaningfully bigger HE wallop – heavy tanks being above all breakthrough weapons.

By: CaptianNemo

CaptianNemo — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:39:58 +0000

Even the 50mm PaK guns had issued penning the T-34s even at close range… The Germans at the time did not have large numbers of medium and large caliber guns on hand.

By: CaptianNemo

CaptianNemo — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:37:01 +0000

Yes the 7,5cm L/60 (prototype met original spec by a hair so barrel length was increased to guarantee pen ) L/70 production was not exactly ready at the time of production. However it was intended early on that a majority of Tiger I’s off the line would come off using the 7,5cm gun because not only did both guns meet the minimum penetration specs but the 7,5cm gun meant you could carry more rounds in the tank. On top of the 7,5cm being lighter in weight.

HE was never a deciding factor. Penetration requirements came first and both designs met the specs required. However as noted above the 88 shells were improved over time and penetration went up as a result.

By: CaptianNemo

CaptianNemo — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 01:30:11 +0000

There are historical accounts of panzerfausts being used as artillery… against both troops and tanks… =)

By: ClassicFrog (EU)

ClassicFrog (EU) — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:43:23 +0000

Oh that mofo reply system said I post too quickly …. god damn it …. here we go again …

I did some research regarding IS 1 weaponry and some search results came up with 100mm gun as an option. Still, even if it’s stock 85 it will have fewer problems going through Tiger’s flat armour than Tiger’s short 88 penning IS’s sloped one.

Regarding 122 gun on IS 2 I think it will be a gun used when combating Tiger 2 tanks.

By: Shapeshifter

Shapeshifter — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:39:45 +0000

And one line drawing in one book showing 30mm does? when multiple photos of evidence and from other publications (IS-3 Heavy tank by Steve Zaloga) don’t?

http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/dmitry_kiyatkin/is-3/
http://www.primeportal.net/tanks/carrey/is-3/

Two different IS-3 walkarounds, where the colour images for the thin sides come from.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:31:00 +0000

“Some” and “claim” don’t really inspire confidence.

By: Kellomies

Kellomies — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 00:27:37 +0000

Pretty sure the IS-1 carried the D-5T you know, ie. the crappy stock gun. Given the very short production run and combat career of the model you’d kind of expect the definitive IS-2 with the 122mm gun to be the norm.