Comments on: Tier 10 RU Server Winrate

By: Goldmarble

Goldmarble — Thu, 01 May 2014 03:31:06 +0000

You’re forgetting the whole fact that it has the worst gun of all tier 10s. How they make it work, I will never understand.

By: Otto-matic Reiffel

Otto-matic Reiffel — Thu, 01 May 2014 00:39:44 +0000

Rather than complaining that X tank looks UP because it is played by noobs or Y tank looks OP because it only played by good players, check it out yourself at http://wot-news.com/game/tankinfo/en

The ‘Tanks Curves’ section show the new method of viewing win rates that gives you a graph of player win rate vs tank win rate. It lets you know how potentially UP or OP a tank is depending on who is playing it.

By: L0rd_0f_War

L0rd_0f_War — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:17:55 +0000

IS7 needs a slight buff to its aim time, and penetration should be taken back to 260mm (AP). IS4 could use with a bit more gun depression, similar to ST1. OBJ268, I don’t understand why it’s suffering so much.

By: FedsRevenge

FedsRevenge — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 23:01:43 +0000

In one of Jingles videos you can see what HESH actually does. It doesn’t bounce, and it doesn’t need to penetrate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oescoihafEw#t=1392

By: TheCrusaderGr

TheCrusaderGr — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 22:25:45 +0000

They changed there formula recently for seeing if a tanks is OP or UP
SS had posted the formula here on FTR and then it was confirmed that WG accept and will move to buff/nerfs according to that

By: FlavioB

FlavioB — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:11:57 +0000

The fundamental flaw with your way of seeing things, guys, is that armor doesn’t matter when you have a HP pool to back yourself up.
Yes, Waifu will be penetrated with each shot, but it has 2.200HP. So, let’s say you are playing a HT, like the IS-4. Waifu is faster than you, and he’ll wreck you before you get your second shot off, and let’s be honest here, if you have an HE shell loaded at all times at Tier X, you are doing it wrong.
It doesn’t matter that you can easily penetrate it, because you are only dealing a fraction of his HP, and then you have to reload. He can gut you before you reload, and it’s still a good HP trade for him.
And let’s be honest, no Waifu driver with IQ higher than a lobotomized ape will ever go alone, nor peek out of a corner first. It’ll take 4 or 5 tanks shooting him at once to kill him fast, before he wrecks one of you, then runs into the sunset to reload and wreck somebody else a minute later.

Pretty much same deal with 183. Not only the alpha is insane, the HESH shell is completely broken. 270 penetration? No tank can take that penetration in the game. ALL tanks have weakspots that can be penetrated with much less power than that.
And, if you are an amoeba that can only click, then you still do damage, because it’s an artillery gun with TD stats. Not counting the fact that it has TD camo and will outspot HT’s and may also outspot a MT with bad crew/Bad setup thanks to the camo advantage.

And the biggest sufferers of TD meta are mostly HT’s. They are slow, so they can’t run away. They have bad DPM compared to both MT’s and TD’s, and sometimes their guns aren’t even all that great. Couple that with bad camo and lowest viewrange of any direct combat class, and you can only rely on an armor that most of the times isn’t enough to stop an aimed AP shot, let alone APCR/HEAT/HESH shot.
Of course, you can say “The meta of the game is correct. You don’t see many HT’s around lately, do you?”, and you’d be right, but it’s a game and if you are going to go for balance, you have to give HT’s a place in the battlefield other than big, farmable piñatas of damage and experience.
And… A good HT driver will eventually have to come in contact with a TD, because he has to be in the front using that HP pool and armor to support a push after the MT’s establish vision supremacy (Hopefuly). You can avoid TD’s by camping, but that’s not what HT’s are for.

By: Medjed

Medjed — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 20:11:37 +0000

Just because some TD is better (waffleshit) than other doesn’t mean other TDs aren’t balanced let alone UP. 268 is the example of how T10 TDs should be. It’s perfecetly balanced. Problem is in powercreep idiotic tanks like waffleshit or 183.

By: Alexander Yordanov

Alexander Yordanov — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:36:59 +0000

Well as far as single stats go, Win ratio is superior to Damage, Spotting, Damage taken etc.

But you are correct, it should be looked into along with other stats.

By: Karsten Næsby Pedersen

Karsten Næsby Pedersen — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 19:22:21 +0000

Sorry, but shows how bad you aim, the armor is really poor apart from a few select places next to the gun

By: Alexander Yordanov

Alexander Yordanov — Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:41:39 +0000

121 is not OP noob.