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		<title>By: Ebayguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ebayguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watch the Challenger videos I posted above]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch the Challenger videos I posted above</p>
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		<title>By: Ebayguy</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/05/05/about-the-firefly-line/#comment-147878</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ebayguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 15:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot6dL2mlO7c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKfpPrRVIo

watch these]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKfpPrRVIo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wKfpPrRVIo</a></p>
<p>watch these</p>
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		<title>By: Doddy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2014 11:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dunno how you come to this conclusion.  The gun is considered the weak point of the BP on a tier 7 heavy.  The 17-pdr has been balanced by reload time and aiming characteristics in the game so far.  The lowest tier vehicle with it is the French tier 5 td which has it as stock gun.  The firefly having a lower rof with it than the tds would balance it just fine, and would be historically quite apt given the maneuvering they had to do to fit the 17-pdr in the turret in the first place.

I don&#039;t know how the challenger would be anything higher than tier 6 either though.  A cromwell with worse turret armour, worse camo and worse maneuverability in exchange for a 17-pdr sounds like it is still tier 6 material to me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno how you come to this conclusion.  The gun is considered the weak point of the BP on a tier 7 heavy.  The 17-pdr has been balanced by reload time and aiming characteristics in the game so far.  The lowest tier vehicle with it is the French tier 5 td which has it as stock gun.  The firefly having a lower rof with it than the tds would balance it just fine, and would be historically quite apt given the maneuvering they had to do to fit the 17-pdr in the turret in the first place.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how the challenger would be anything higher than tier 6 either though.  A cromwell with worse turret armour, worse camo and worse maneuverability in exchange for a 17-pdr sounds like it is still tier 6 material to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ogopogo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 15:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it&#039;s better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s better.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan_</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/05/05/about-the-firefly-line/#comment-145711</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: mondog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 10:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its not better either. So not ideal for Tier X.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not better either. So not ideal for Tier X.</p>
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		<title>By: thorium220</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 07:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s true that 65mm isn&#039;t all that thick, but that front plate on the AC 4 is at 70 degrees, which is the WOT autobounce angle. Autobounce aside, that sloping brings the 65mm to an effective thickness of 190mm (65mm/cos(70)=190mm). Decrease the front slope to 60 degrees (let&#039;s say your enemy had a bit of high ground) and it&#039;s still 130mm.

Your Comet can&#039;t manage that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s true that 65mm isn&#8217;t all that thick, but that front plate on the AC 4 is at 70 degrees, which is the WOT autobounce angle. Autobounce aside, that sloping brings the 65mm to an effective thickness of 190mm (65mm/cos(70)=190mm). Decrease the front slope to 60 degrees (let&#8217;s say your enemy had a bit of high ground) and it&#8217;s still 130mm.</p>
<p>Your Comet can&#8217;t manage that.</p>
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		<title>By: iulean</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 07:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_1 challenger will never fitt in WOT it has chobhan armour]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_1" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Challenger_1</a> challenger will never fitt in WOT it has chobhan armour</p>
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		<title>By: Bonesaw1o1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 07:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AC4 was planned to have an upgraded power plant. 
The original desired engines for the AC1 were a Guiberson diesel or a Pratt&amp;Whitney Wasp radial, neither of which could be obtained at the time so an alternate arrangement was  created using 3 v6 petrol engines operating in triplex in a clover leaf layout through a common crank shaft (the engines were obtained from a local stock that had been commercially imported prior to the war). the AC3 changed the layout to something closer to a Chrysler multibank and the AC4 was proposed to finally get either the Pratt&amp;Whitney radial engine or something equivalent as supplies from the US had at that time become available (however the project was cancelled before this could be implemented) so an upgrade in mobility is possible without being unhistorical.

glacis isn&#039;t that thick though, only 65mm, side is 45mm, upside is that its an entirely cast hull so the thickness should be largely uniform]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AC4 was planned to have an upgraded power plant.<br />
The original desired engines for the AC1 were a Guiberson diesel or a Pratt&amp;Whitney Wasp radial, neither of which could be obtained at the time so an alternate arrangement was  created using 3 v6 petrol engines operating in triplex in a clover leaf layout through a common crank shaft (the engines were obtained from a local stock that had been commercially imported prior to the war). the AC3 changed the layout to something closer to a Chrysler multibank and the AC4 was proposed to finally get either the Pratt&amp;Whitney radial engine or something equivalent as supplies from the US had at that time become available (however the project was cancelled before this could be implemented) so an upgrade in mobility is possible without being unhistorical.</p>
<p>glacis isn&#8217;t that thick though, only 65mm, side is 45mm, upside is that its an entirely cast hull so the thickness should be largely uniform</p>
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		<title>By: Bonesaw1o1</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 07:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As far as development cohesion goes the Sentinel/Thunderbolt is a bit messy. 
AC1 has the standard 2 pounder (not the Mk-XB with the little john adapter), the AC2 was proposed as a means of up gunning it with either a 6 pounder or 75mm (either British or american, they also wanted to make changes to the power plant as well) but  neither of these guns could be obtain so the AC2 design was shelved (there was another design titled AC2 as well, it also go shelved). 
AC3 was fitted with the short 25 pounder (so it would probably have worse stats than the alecto one because of the lower muzzle velocity)  however there was also an intention to fit it with the 6 pounder/75mm if they became available(which they never did).  AC4 never got past the prototype stage (the one in the photo is an AC3 hull with AC4 turret, final paper design had a remodelled engine bay for a new power plant) but was proposed in variants with both the 17pounder and the 25pounder. 
so potentially you could actually split it across tiers 4-6 if you spaced out the guns right, the only issue would be the crappy 25pounder being the stock gun at tier 6 (unless WG get creative and give it the 75mm/6 pounder as the stock gun)

In regards to the dual 25 pounder setup I doubt it will make it into the game, it was purely a testing design and the guns took up so much room in the turret that there isn&#039;t any space for the crew. during the tests it was fired remotely]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as development cohesion goes the Sentinel/Thunderbolt is a bit messy.<br />
AC1 has the standard 2 pounder (not the Mk-XB with the little john adapter), the AC2 was proposed as a means of up gunning it with either a 6 pounder or 75mm (either British or american, they also wanted to make changes to the power plant as well) but  neither of these guns could be obtain so the AC2 design was shelved (there was another design titled AC2 as well, it also go shelved).<br />
AC3 was fitted with the short 25 pounder (so it would probably have worse stats than the alecto one because of the lower muzzle velocity)  however there was also an intention to fit it with the 6 pounder/75mm if they became available(which they never did).  AC4 never got past the prototype stage (the one in the photo is an AC3 hull with AC4 turret, final paper design had a remodelled engine bay for a new power plant) but was proposed in variants with both the 17pounder and the 25pounder.<br />
so potentially you could actually split it across tiers 4-6 if you spaced out the guns right, the only issue would be the crappy 25pounder being the stock gun at tier 6 (unless WG get creative and give it the 75mm/6 pounder as the stock gun)</p>
<p>In regards to the dual 25 pounder setup I doubt it will make it into the game, it was purely a testing design and the guns took up so much room in the turret that there isn&#8217;t any space for the crew. during the tests it was fired remotely</p>
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