Comments on: Swedish Tanks – Part XII: EMIL 1951

By: Xelos

Xelos — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 16:25:14 +0000

Tier 8 heavy? Please tell me your joking. Try tier 9.

By: imperiumgraecum

imperiumgraecum — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 15:04:40 +0000

A mobile med/heavy hybrid with the size of a t44, burst firepower of French, adequate depression(propably around 8-10 degrees) and with an armored turret???

YES PLEASE

By: Dr_Wycior

Dr_Wycior — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:58:54 +0000

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By: Platypusbill_WoT

Platypusbill_WoT — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 12:54:31 +0000

In WoT terms, effetive armour (AP/APCR/HEAT) =

LFP 183/194/203
UFP 154/172/187 (though just 2 degrees of upward angle or 25 degrees of side angle ricochets AP/APCR)
Turret front 196/205/212
Gun shield looks pretty complex, but it’s nominally 200mm thick
Turret cheeks 221/239/254 (http://ftr.wot-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/PZVDMwb.jpg shows ~60 degrees of horizontal angle on top of 10 degrees of vertical angle)

This thing is waaaaay overpowered for tier VIII unless it is artificially crippled with insanely poor soft stats. It has a 120mm autoloader, fast medium level mobility, great profile/camo, amazing gun depression, and strong frontal armour (the UFP is weak, but becomes irrelevant whenever it is even slightly angled or there is a little slope or obstacle to abuse), though its sides and top are paper.

By: sp15

sp15 — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:25:22 +0000

Yes i see your point. The vehicle really is more of a med than a heavy, but it was reffered to as a heavy and it could fill that role. And without it as a heavy we would have no tier 8 heavy for the european tree ( or the swedish tree for that matter)

By: sp15

sp15 — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:21:03 +0000

No silentstalker got that wrong, he even adressed that. Its the gun elevation that was14dg not the depression

By: sp15

sp15 — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:18:35 +0000

Tanks in swedish service from this period would have been painted olive green

By: Grumpy_Stranger

Grumpy_Stranger — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 11:00:04 +0000

It actually does, but it’s covered at the front and sides by armor plates affixed to the base of the turret, unlike the french that have the oscillating part out in the open.

By: DemolitionDmitrij

DemolitionDmitrij — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:48:00 +0000

Afaik AMX 50B has also 14deg gundepression. Only WG decided to not give a fuck about it.

By: mr_clark

mr_clark — Sun, 01 Jun 2014 10:14:10 +0000

Looking at the stats I somehow rather see it as a T9 Medium in WoT Terms. If the gun was weaker then maybe a T8 med.