Comments on: Bryansk Historical Battle – Tank Setups

By: Tomasz Antochów

Tomasz Antochów — Sat, 21 Jun 2014 21:13:23 +0000

Your survival rate is quite low. I think you should be more carefull. Don’t be passive, just pick wait a bit till the battle develops and then go in in a good moment. Don’t camp at base though. What I mean is that you should maybe stay a bit in 2nd line. Only pick enemies you know you can kill. For example. Imagin you are in a KV-1 and there is an enemy PzIII. You can kill him right? Now imagin you are the PzIII ! Would you try to solo a KV-1 in a PzIII? I wouldn’t. Maybe if you had some perfect circumstances, but other than that: NO! Also your average kills/battle and win rate are pretty bad.

By: 23r0_NA

23r0_NA — Sat, 21 Jun 2014 05:49:09 +0000

The Panzer 38t can still be useful as a passive scout in this battle due to having the best view range of all tanks available on either team in the battle. Of course it’s slow for a scout, but it could be useful for parking in a bush on one side of the map and waiting for the Russian tanks to blunder past it as an ‘alarm’ of sorts (similar to the role of a T1 Cunningham in team battles). If it has the right crew and equipment loadout, it should have no trouble in this role, as it has a view range 100 meters better than they best view range among the Russians. With binocular telescopes, this tank’s view range skyrockets well into the 400 meter range. The only real problem it has, as mentioned before, is that it’s slow, but if the Germans want to play defensively (which their tank lineup is ideally-suited for), then it pretty much cancels out that disadvantage almost entirely.

By: 23r0_NA

23r0_NA — Sat, 21 Jun 2014 05:41:21 +0000

T-26: Basically nothing, they’re cannon fodder. Maybe counter-scouting if the Germans attempt to active scout, but I doubt they will.

BT-7: Scouting – before you say the T-34 can do it better, this is a T-34 with a stock turret. View range of the stock turret: 240 meters. The T-34s will be blind as bats in this battle, so they can’t be depended on for scouting. The BT-7 isn’t much better, but it’ll have to do, considering that the Russians have an all-around disadvantage in terms of situational awareness (which is consistent with history).

T-60: Possibly scouting, but most likely cannon fodder, as it’s worse than the T-70 in pretty much every way.

T-70: Possibly passive scouting or counter-scouting, but most likely cannon fodder.

Panzer II: Scouting – even though the Panzer III is almost a better scout, the Panzer II, being a light tank, retains full camo even while moving, which could make it useful with a skilled crew for scouting – considering that, for its tier, this is one of the tanks that’s popular for seal-clubbing, it wouldn’t surprise me to see a few of these rolling around with crews having fully-trained camouflage skills on them.

Panzer 38t: Passive scouting and counter-scouting – as it has its top turret, this tank boasts the best view range of any tank available on either side at 360 meters (though not by much, compared to the Panzer IVH at 340 meters). It could also kill any pesky BT-7s that make it to the rear, although T-34s will a problem.

By: Hairysteed

Hairysteed — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 20:01:58 +0000

Keep in mind that the historical armament for the BT-7 (as well as the T-70 and the T-26) is the short 45mm that the MS-1 normally gets

By: saffron-tea

saffron-tea — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:22:24 +0000

BT-7 can scout and penetrate most of the German side armor. A skillful BT-7 player can track and circle a Stug 3 with ease and easily pen its sides.
Though the German lower tiers are absolutely useless. Can’t pen a KV-1 or a T-34 anywhere and they aren’t that fast either (scouting should go to the Panzer 3).
The only usable tanks for Bryansk is the BT-7, T-34, KV-1, Panzer3, Panzer 4 and Stug 3.

By: saffron-tea

saffron-tea — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 16:18:05 +0000

103 mm of pen can go through the KV-1 pretty easily. The panzer 4 is a lot faster than the KV-1 and can just shoot his flat not very well sloped armor.

More importantly which Russian tank can penetrate the Panzer 4 and Stug 3? The most penetration the Russians have is 86 mm of armor against 80 mm of German armor. With some slight angling, the germans can bounce everything thrown at them. Even the panzer 3 with 70 mm of front armor can bounce a lot.

By: Medjed

Medjed — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:15:13 +0000

Cannon fodders

By: Medjed

Medjed — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:14:36 +0000

Reichblaster is a fgt

By: themuddyside

themuddyside — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 15:13:18 +0000

Your victory rate on the VK3600 is good, that is a good sign. That tank is good but it requires skill when carrying games. You will enjoy the Tigers and the German mediums.

By: Hairysteed

Hairysteed — Fri, 20 Jun 2014 14:47:28 +0000

There is also the problem of having completely useless tanks in the game… Seriously! What are T-26:s, BT-7:s, T-60:s, T-70:s, PzII:s and Pz38(t):s ever going to accomplish here?