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	<title>Comments on: Of World of Tanks Payment Security</title>
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		<title>By: OOPMan</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/02/of-world-of-tanks-payment-security/#comment-167710</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OOPMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Incorrect. A token is far more general than that, what you&#039;re thinking of is referred to as a &quot;hardware token&quot;. However, tokens do not require hardware and it is quite possible to secure a system using software tokens only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_token

In the context of WG and their payment system, a software token system is where they need to go. I&#039;ve just finished implementing one for something I work on and it&#039;s pretty slick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Incorrect. A token is far more general than that, what you&#8217;re thinking of is referred to as a &#8220;hardware token&#8221;. However, tokens do not require hardware and it is quite possible to secure a system using software tokens only.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_token</a></p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_token" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_token</a></p>
<p>In the context of WG and their payment system, a software token system is where they need to go. I&#8217;ve just finished implementing one for something I work on and it&#8217;s pretty slick.</p>
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		<title>By: OOPMan</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/02/of-world-of-tanks-payment-security/#comment-167709</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OOPMan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not really. This kind of thing is very common among many web developers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really. This kind of thing is very common among many web developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Spikey</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spikey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[token is a physical device for computer authentication, basically a small plastic object with part of the login code]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>token is a physical device for computer authentication, basically a small plastic object with part of the login code</p>
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		<title>By: Gappa</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/02/of-world-of-tanks-payment-security/#comment-167516</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I really hope you are right :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hope you are right :)</p>
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		<title>By: PhiliPTran</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/02/of-world-of-tanks-payment-security/#comment-167513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PhiliPTran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, sloppiness of programmers.  Classic WG]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, sloppiness of programmers.  Classic WG</p>
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		<title>By: Vamiris</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/07/02/of-world-of-tanks-payment-security/#comment-167463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vamiris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An auto-increment of an ID is not the risk itself.

You can make a payment and you have your ID, so you can be sure, the next payment from anyone has your ID+1 to identify his payment.

However, now you only have a ID you can work with. Saying you can read any data with that is not proofen. Normally you can query the server with that ID, the Server checks your authentication and gives you the reply.

The auth has to be known, to get some data.

The ID just gives you the first parameter. Normally you hide this ID or use a token (randomly generated number while the payment checkout) together with the ID.
In that case, you can check the ID and the token, before you have to check the auth-informations.

Saying I can query the server just with an ID and get informations is quite senseless... or WG did a real fail on their security...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An auto-increment of an ID is not the risk itself.</p>
<p>You can make a payment and you have your ID, so you can be sure, the next payment from anyone has your ID+1 to identify his payment.</p>
<p>However, now you only have a ID you can work with. Saying you can read any data with that is not proofen. Normally you can query the server with that ID, the Server checks your authentication and gives you the reply.</p>
<p>The auth has to be known, to get some data.</p>
<p>The ID just gives you the first parameter. Normally you hide this ID or use a token (randomly generated number while the payment checkout) together with the ID.<br />
In that case, you can check the ID and the token, before you have to check the auth-informations.</p>
<p>Saying I can query the server just with an ID and get informations is quite senseless&#8230; or WG did a real fail on their security&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Silentstalker</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Silentstalker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nope, I am Czech]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, I am Czech</p>
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		<title>By: Gappa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gappa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gappa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, the first time they had the &quot;Change password for gold&quot; event it was afaik WG&#039;s fault.

The one you mention was the second (I think) event and imho you are right, it was because of Heartbleed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the first time they had the &#8220;Change password for gold&#8221; event it was afaik WG&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p>The one you mention was the second (I think) event and imho you are right, it was because of Heartbleed.</p>
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		<title>By: Woras</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Woras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2014 08:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Net, on iz Čekii.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Net, on iz Čekii.</p>
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