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		<title>By: Sky</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/19/of-political-sensitiveness/#comment-184683</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 17:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The government got their power first without any elections, but most of the citizen stood behind them, because the didn’t like the old government (aka Janukowitsch).&quot;

1. Current president is democratically elected and he is the one pushing very hardly to get rid of pro-russian forces from Ukraine and he is the one supporting current parliament - FYI: even when Yatsenyuk tried to dismantle the government few weeks ago - it was rejected by the democratically elected president and he asked them to stay for the stability of a country.
2. Yes, current parliament doesn&#039;t have a full democratic mandate, never the less: majority of the parliament members were elected in general elections.

So: the government in Kiev is NOTHING like pro-russian forces in the eastern Ukraine.

You ask people to look objectively at the situation - yet you don&#039;t do it yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The government got their power first without any elections, but most of the citizen stood behind them, because the didn’t like the old government (aka Janukowitsch).&#8221;</p>
<p>1. Current president is democratically elected and he is the one pushing very hardly to get rid of pro-russian forces from Ukraine and he is the one supporting current parliament &#8211; FYI: even when Yatsenyuk tried to dismantle the government few weeks ago &#8211; it was rejected by the democratically elected president and he asked them to stay for the stability of a country.<br />
2. Yes, current parliament doesn&#8217;t have a full democratic mandate, never the less: majority of the parliament members were elected in general elections.</p>
<p>So: the government in Kiev is NOTHING like pro-russian forces in the eastern Ukraine.</p>
<p>You ask people to look objectively at the situation &#8211; yet you don&#8217;t do it yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Sky</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/19/of-political-sensitiveness/#comment-184682</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, butthurt edition just arrived.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, butthurt edition just arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: Abraxas1956</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28845076]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28845076" rel="nofollow">http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-28845076</a></p>
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		<title>By: baws</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Perhaps next time, instead of “realizing the special conditions of RU markets”, conditions on EU server should be considered as well.&quot;
Something like this?  &quot;Sorry, but you can&#039;t drive your tanks, because there&#039;s no fuel  to power them. Have a nice day&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Perhaps next time, instead of “realizing the special conditions of RU markets”, conditions on EU server should be considered as well.&#8221;<br />
Something like this?  &#8220;Sorry, but you can&#8217;t drive your tanks, because there&#8217;s no fuel  to power them. Have a nice day&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Skarakien</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;From russia with love&quot; is a &quot;double-oh-seven&quot; Bond book/movie.
&quot;Hammer and Sickle&quot; is a Silent Storm game. 
Just sayin&#039;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;From russia with love&#8221; is a &#8220;double-oh-seven&#8221; Bond book/movie.<br />
&#8220;Hammer and Sickle&#8221; is a Silent Storm game.<br />
Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: sabbatino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 14:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speak for yourself school kid. I finished school long time ago.

Now go read &quot;50 Shades of Putin&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speak for yourself school kid. I finished school long time ago.</p>
<p>Now go read &#8220;50 Shades of Putin&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ctp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is that all you have u incompetent fool? Like a said fuck off to school.You are late.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that all you have u incompetent fool? Like a said fuck off to school.You are late.</p>
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		<title>By: sabbatino</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go cry somewhere else Putin bitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go cry somewhere else Putin bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Pazuzu</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you are sane, healthy, adult man who has been forced to adore said sickle an star (if you did not &quot;celebrate&quot; youd get in lot of troubles), keep your voice down (or else you get persecuted), forbidden to travel across western border and see national production crippled and drained away... for DECADES...

... even you would grow some hate towards sickle and star.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are sane, healthy, adult man who has been forced to adore said sickle an star (if you did not &#8220;celebrate&#8221; youd get in lot of troubles), keep your voice down (or else you get persecuted), forbidden to travel across western border and see national production crippled and drained away&#8230; for DECADES&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; even you would grow some hate towards sickle and star.</p>
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		<title>By: Arno Nühm</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arno Nühm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read this whole comment section. I feel like death warmed up, abysmal. Every time I started to wonder if there is really this high a percentage of people willing to support Putin, I had to remember that this is no actual poll. It still makes me sick that the standard riposte against critic on the Russian government is: &quot;Look what America has done&quot;. Reveals a certain type of thinking. Also, those commentators imply, you had to choose one side, whereas you should simply stick to your own set of ideals. 

And it&#039;s probably a mistake to give any attention to discussions like this, but it can&#039;t be helped, too late for that. As I follow a dispute like this (comments and irl), I think there will be war sometime - even in Europe - , because conflict seems to be a part of human nature, in some it&#039;s bigger (which I hope includes most of the commentators) in others there is still something of it but buried or controlled. 

But back to the track: If you accuse someone of being brainwashed, doesn&#039;t this automatically imply that you are confident in YOUR sources of information, to begin with? I trust the printed SPIEGEL a whole lot, that&#039;s for sure. But if you start to doubt the very base of the opposing disputants&#039; arguments, you should also take into consideration the invalidity of your own sources of information, which makes the whole possibility of brainwashing if not obsolete, then at least less likely. But whom am I kidding? This discussion clearly lacks those basic understanding of controversy. 

Furthermore, there is no simple truth in war. If you feel like you could clearly judge the whole situation relating Ukraine and Russia, you are either chief of some service of intelligence or overestimating yourself by far. This doesn&#039;t mean however, that there aren&#039;t some facts that no one can deny, e.g. the right a country has to defend its own territory with appropriate means. The counter argument you get to read is something along the lines &quot;the population wants to have their territory to be independent/ annexed to Russia. Look, we even made a vote&quot; and/or &quot;They gave it, they take it. That&#039;s fine, historical accuracy&quot;. 

Apart from me making fun, here we are back again at the topic of trust. It could be &quot;a part x of population y maybe wants to... but they pretended that their vote is legit, so let them have it&quot;. Who would trust that vote? Who could support those invading, armed men? Only the one who has an interest in it. He who thinks, there is the need of a counterpart to the great Yankee, the Gringo. In short: The paranoid ones. Those with what the German call &quot;Blockdenken&quot;. Thinking in black and white when it comes to political conflicts West ./. East. Don&#039;t have Blockdenken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read this whole comment section. I feel like death warmed up, abysmal. Every time I started to wonder if there is really this high a percentage of people willing to support Putin, I had to remember that this is no actual poll. It still makes me sick that the standard riposte against critic on the Russian government is: &#8220;Look what America has done&#8221;. Reveals a certain type of thinking. Also, those commentators imply, you had to choose one side, whereas you should simply stick to your own set of ideals. </p>
<p>And it&#8217;s probably a mistake to give any attention to discussions like this, but it can&#8217;t be helped, too late for that. As I follow a dispute like this (comments and irl), I think there will be war sometime &#8211; even in Europe &#8211; , because conflict seems to be a part of human nature, in some it&#8217;s bigger (which I hope includes most of the commentators) in others there is still something of it but buried or controlled. </p>
<p>But back to the track: If you accuse someone of being brainwashed, doesn&#8217;t this automatically imply that you are confident in YOUR sources of information, to begin with? I trust the printed SPIEGEL a whole lot, that&#8217;s for sure. But if you start to doubt the very base of the opposing disputants&#8217; arguments, you should also take into consideration the invalidity of your own sources of information, which makes the whole possibility of brainwashing if not obsolete, then at least less likely. But whom am I kidding? This discussion clearly lacks those basic understanding of controversy. </p>
<p>Furthermore, there is no simple truth in war. If you feel like you could clearly judge the whole situation relating Ukraine and Russia, you are either chief of some service of intelligence or overestimating yourself by far. This doesn&#8217;t mean however, that there aren&#8217;t some facts that no one can deny, e.g. the right a country has to defend its own territory with appropriate means. The counter argument you get to read is something along the lines &#8220;the population wants to have their territory to be independent/ annexed to Russia. Look, we even made a vote&#8221; and/or &#8220;They gave it, they take it. That&#8217;s fine, historical accuracy&#8221;. </p>
<p>Apart from me making fun, here we are back again at the topic of trust. It could be &#8220;a part x of population y maybe wants to&#8230; but they pretended that their vote is legit, so let them have it&#8221;. Who would trust that vote? Who could support those invading, armed men? Only the one who has an interest in it. He who thinks, there is the need of a counterpart to the great Yankee, the Gringo. In short: The paranoid ones. Those with what the German call &#8220;Blockdenken&#8221;. Thinking in black and white when it comes to political conflicts West ./. East. Don&#8217;t have Blockdenken.</p>
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