Comments on: Meanwhile in WoT Xbox…

By: Zarax

Zarax — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 07:07:03 +0000

There is no single reputable source that gives 132mm.
Quotes usually are 120mm/30° (138mm /0°), 142mm, 146mm up to 162mm from WWII Ballistics and gunnery, but that one uses the american system.

I’ll give you another hint: the German 75mm flak L/60 matched the penetration of the 88mm L/56, check what value is it in WOT on the Pz. Sfl. IVc.

By: Eventyr

Eventyr — Thu, 21 Aug 2014 00:26:28 +0000

And German penetration tests were conducted with higher quality ammunition than was actually used on the tanks (among other things). It’s moronic (and reeks of racism/nationalism) to insist that only the Germans could test German guns properly, especially when the other nations were actually testing German weapons as used, in combat, by the actual German army.

By: fusk

fusk — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:28:44 +0000

It’s xbox, they can make tanks that can fly for all i care.
But cool story anyway :)

By: Chad Mesiroff

Chad Mesiroff — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:20:15 +0000

To bad the shell also gets 5 degrees of normalization…..

So that 120mm@ 30 becomes 120mm @ 22 degrees and is under….

By: Hammer74

Hammer74 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:19:47 +0000

The most realistic I found on the web regardin the 88 on a T-34
http://kampfgruppe144.blogspot.no/2012/01/1144-beutepanzer-t3485r-88mm-cgd.html

1/144 Beutepanzer T34/85(r) 88mm – CGD
Another of CGD more esoteric productions, a captured beutepanzer T34/85(r) rearmed with 88mm Gun.
The Germans captured very few T34/85 tanks and even fewer was put into service. However, from unconfirmed sources, Panzerbrigade Kurland, in Kurland, had only captured tanks. They took a captured T34/85 to a shipyard and rearmed to fire 88mm shells. They might have rebored the 85mm gun barrel to take 88mm shells (not quite probable) or took the 88mm gun form a damaged Tiger I and fit it into the turret. Supposedly the turret storage box from the Tiger was also fitted onto the T34, with some other custom additions.

More realistic is this:
T34 in German service with 88mm Flak 38 – rebuild by the Germans
http://henk.fox3000.com/t34/t34-88/02.jpg

On the end of the War the Germans has convert a captured T-34 with 8,8cm Flak 36. The vehicle was in service by the battle group “Kienast”. This vehicle was used during the late battle in April 1945 in East-Sachsen.

By: IOSYS

IOSYS — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:01:37 +0000

Another Tiger Vs T-34 debate? Two tanks, both icons of the worst war in human history?
Noobs still thinking in terms of Quality over Quantity?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygr5AHufBN4
REAL MEN TAKE THIRD OPTION.
DO THE IMPOSSIBLE.
SEE THE INVISIBLE.
INITIATE PHASE ONE.

POWER UP THE BA88 CANNON.

By: Wolfie

Wolfie — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:45:02 +0000

America

cuz…..Fuck all, ‘Murica. XD

By: Wolfie

Wolfie — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:43:51 +0000

well americans have DEEEP pockets i reckon :d

By: edfrancis001

edfrancis001 — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:35:10 +0000

in Otto’s book; tigers in the mud, he mentions that when facing the new IS tanks he has to allow then to get closer to make sure his round penetrated.

By: Shapeshifter

Shapeshifter — Wed, 20 Aug 2014 16:14:27 +0000

Germans also had something like a 90% pen critera with rounds filled with HE while most books assume they had similar to US/UK testing of 50%

soviet standards were different again, so if they are converting what they assume is a 50% german testing critera to soviet standards, it is off.