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	<title>Comments on: Chieftain&#8217;s Hatch &#8211; Chieftain</title>
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		<title>By: Hotwired</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-187710</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[120mm frontal on chieftain has a large questionmark over it.

If you look up the guy who did some echo sounding on a chieftain he didn&#039;t find even nearly 120mm armour on the front.

Hell, you can look at the drivers hatch open on the video and know for a fact that it&#039;s not 12cm thick.

I&#039;m thinking if the armour is modelled as is should be we&#039;re going to see thinner frontal armour than the fv4202s fake frontal hull.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>120mm frontal on chieftain has a large questionmark over it.</p>
<p>If you look up the guy who did some echo sounding on a chieftain he didn&#8217;t find even nearly 120mm armour on the front.</p>
<p>Hell, you can look at the drivers hatch open on the video and know for a fact that it&#8217;s not 12cm thick.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking if the armour is modelled as is should be we&#8217;re going to see thinner frontal armour than the fv4202s fake frontal hull.</p>
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		<title>By: gamerman62</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-187176</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow a tank so awesome it has TOGs on it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow a tank so awesome it has TOGs on it :)</p>
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		<title>By: edfrancis001</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-187096</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s because it&#039;s easy to blur the lines between what is heavy and what is a MBT. 

If we look at these two:
Tiger 1 - speed 45.4
Weight: 54 tons
HP: 690
Armour: 120mm max
Turret 360: yes
Capable gun against all relative threats - yup

Now let&#039;s look at Chieftain
Speed: 48 kph (if it worked)
Weight: 55 tons
HP: 750 
Armour 120mm (very sloped)
Turret 360: yes
Capable gun against all relative threats - yup

So as you can see, while we call it a MBT, it can also be classed as a Heavy if you wished. I would say that the chieftains primary faults prevent it being classed as a true MBT in my mind, as it falls out of the perfect triangle ( Mobility, Firepower, Armour) 

What do you recon SS, are modern MBTs more akin to what we could call Heavies? Is the weight gain in current tanks part of the re-occurring tank evolution? Food for thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s because it&#8217;s easy to blur the lines between what is heavy and what is a MBT. </p>
<p>If we look at these two:<br />
Tiger 1 &#8211; speed 45.4<br />
Weight: 54 tons<br />
HP: 690<br />
Armour: 120mm max<br />
Turret 360: yes<br />
Capable gun against all relative threats &#8211; yup</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s look at Chieftain<br />
Speed: 48 kph (if it worked)<br />
Weight: 55 tons<br />
HP: 750<br />
Armour 120mm (very sloped)<br />
Turret 360: yes<br />
Capable gun against all relative threats &#8211; yup</p>
<p>So as you can see, while we call it a MBT, it can also be classed as a Heavy if you wished. I would say that the chieftains primary faults prevent it being classed as a true MBT in my mind, as it falls out of the perfect triangle ( Mobility, Firepower, Armour) </p>
<p>What do you recon SS, are modern MBTs more akin to what we could call Heavies? Is the weight gain in current tanks part of the re-occurring tank evolution? Food for thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Doddy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why does it being a MBT mean it should be a medium?

The point of MBT was to replace all tanks, not to turn all tanks into mediums.  The meta that was around when the first gen MBTs came out happened to have them act more like mediums than anything else but that constantly changed depending how the armour vs armament race was going (and indeed these early MBTs had to be supported by heavier tanks (Is-3, conqueror, M103) because they were too light).  The battlefield role of MBTs changed constantly and cheiftains role was somewhere between heavy tank and tank destroyer, it also replaced conqueror as well as centurion remember.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does it being a MBT mean it should be a medium?</p>
<p>The point of MBT was to replace all tanks, not to turn all tanks into mediums.  The meta that was around when the first gen MBTs came out happened to have them act more like mediums than anything else but that constantly changed depending how the armour vs armament race was going (and indeed these early MBTs had to be supported by heavier tanks (Is-3, conqueror, M103) because they were too light).  The battlefield role of MBTs changed constantly and cheiftains role was somewhere between heavy tank and tank destroyer, it also replaced conqueror as well as centurion remember.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuddy</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-186805</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fuddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My sentiments exactly !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sentiments exactly !!</p>
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		<title>By: Kagero</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-186780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kagero]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t wait to have it in my garage!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait to have it in my garage!</p>
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		<title>By: T0byJug</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/08/27/chieftains-hatch-chieftain/#comment-186761</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T0byJug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[watch video again it replaced Centurian (MED tank) and Conqueror (Heavy Tank)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>watch video again it replaced Centurian (MED tank) and Conqueror (Heavy Tank)</p>
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		<title>By: anonymoususer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because this tank is big, it&#039;s heavy, has big 120mm gun, it&#039;s not fast and has better armor than FV4202 made up armor values.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because this tank is big, it&#8217;s heavy, has big 120mm gun, it&#8217;s not fast and has better armor than FV4202 made up armor values.</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad Pomar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vlad Pomar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Chinese tier X medium does have a 122mm gun.Anyhow,I guess it does suit the role of a Heavy more than a Medium.
If we would have MBT class in WoT it would be perfect,the Chieftain could be researched from both the Medium and the Heavy line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese tier X medium does have a 122mm gun.Anyhow,I guess it does suit the role of a Heavy more than a Medium.<br />
If we would have MBT class in WoT it would be perfect,the Chieftain could be researched from both the Medium and the Heavy line.</p>
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		<title>By: CharlieTheDingo</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 11:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Because it is much more armored than the Centurions and has a 120 mm gun. Meds in WoT don&#039;t have 120mm guns. As he said at the beginning, it&#039;s a combination of the Conqueror&#039;s gun and armor with the Centurion&#039;s mobility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because it is much more armored than the Centurions and has a 120 mm gun. Meds in WoT don&#8217;t have 120mm guns. As he said at the beginning, it&#8217;s a combination of the Conqueror&#8217;s gun and armor with the Centurion&#8217;s mobility.</p>
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