Comments on: The Black Brigade – Part 1

By: Cendrake

Cendrake — Sun, 07 Sep 2014 08:02:29 +0000

The Poles fought bravely and very well, bearing in mind they weren’t even fully mobilized (upon the earlier advice by UK, so not to unsettle Germany even more), but even if they had been fully mobilized and even if Russia had not attacked from the other side, they probably would’ve been defeated, because they were totally outnumbered. But yes, the campaign would’ve taken weeks, if not months longer if it wasn’t for Russia’s attack. It’s a common myth that this was a stroll in the park for Germany. Poland gave them hell and it took quite some time for Germany to regain strength afterwards.

Still, if there’s one reason the war didn’t end much faster, it’s for UK and France not acting when Germany invaded Poland. It is said, they weren’t ready and maybe they really thought so, but actually Germany wouldn’t have stand a chance then.

Jodl later even said in the Nuremberg War Trials ““if we did not collapse already in the year 1939 that was due only to the fact that during the Polish campaign, the approximately 110 French and British divisions in the West were held completely inactive against the 23 German divisions.”

By: Erich2142

Erich2142 — Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:32:32 +0000

Yes, but the Polish high command gave a direct order not to fight the Soviets.

By: pesymistyczny

pesymistyczny — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 20:16:25 +0000

yup, liberation of belarussian and ukrainian peasants and workers from polish masters servitude
http://histmag.org/grafika/articles4/17wrzesnia/17wrzesnia_010.jpg

and for serious, i dont think any of this dates is appropriate to celebration

By: Robert Kaleta

Robert Kaleta — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 20:11:35 +0000

+1 for you SS for calling in the 10th Cav Brigade, not 10th Motorized Cavalry Brigade, as some of older publications used to do. Official Polish documents of Chief Staff still called the unit 10th Cav, despite it’s motorized character.

There is an autobiografy of Col./Gen. Maczek called “Od podwody do czołga” (no idea what’s the English or Czech title), that is a great source of information about his unit during WWII

By: Zarkus

Zarkus — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:54:58 +0000

Thanks for the replies, guys. I’ve posted things before about what my family experienced in Poland, and some knucklehead always has something to say. It doesn’t matter what was told to me firsthand, it doesn’t change the warped mind.

By: nixxxie

nixxxie — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:10:17 +0000

Wait till 2nd weekend of September, they will surely celebrate 17th with something *special*…

By: pesymistyczny

pesymistyczny — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:54:52 +0000

damn commentary system, i need to response to myself

i started to watch the same movie and stopped in same momet (french documentary if i good rememeber)

there was more charges of polish cavalry in Sept 1939, this near Krojanty is most known, but none of them was againts panzers, more about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_cavalry#Cavalry_charges_and_propaganda

By: pesymistyczny

pesymistyczny — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:37:31 +0000

sry, too late for edit, here you have percentage of polish citizens in Zaolzie in 2001, over 60 years later: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Polacy_na_Zaolziu.png/640px-Polacy_na_Zaolziu.png
at the beginning of XXth century in Cieszyn county lived 40000 Poles and only 5000 Czechs
in 1958 Poland and Czechoslovakia signed treatment about polish minority special rights in Zaolzie (polish schools , newspapers etc.) and left it to Czechs, it’s no controversial anymore

By: Elgbert

Elgbert — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:28:59 +0000

Good correction, but it still only one incident.
A friend of mine wanted to show me a documentary of WWII (in colours), but the first episode started out with this myth (horses vs tanks), portraying it as a typical example of the difference between Polish and German forces.
Fancy colour pictures are no good if you base your program on myths!

By: pesymistyczny

pesymistyczny — Fri, 05 Sep 2014 16:26:46 +0000

i was talking about SS
about Zaolzie, it was borderland until 1958