Comments on: How Wargaming Works – Really!

By: M4A3E8sherman

M4A3E8sherman — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:46:11 +0000

I’m not surprised that people complain more even when arty has been rendered ineffective and unrewarding to play. The problem is not how good it is, but why the fundamentals have been allowed to remain for such a long duration of time.
If you were poked with a needle every day, but it were changed so that you only got poked with a toothpick, I wouldn’t be surprised if you continued to get angrier about your situation over time-not because it’s so bad, but because this silliness still hasn’t stopped.
“Cancer” as a term for arty may not have been a common term in the early days, but that doesn’t mean people are using it simply for popularity’s sake. It’s because many players feel it represents their opinion of the mechanic accurately in a simple, identifiable fashion-just like British colonists in NA described their ruler as a “Mad King” during the days of rebellion. (This example is not used to knock the UK or King George, who was certainly not a tyrant as often viewed at the time, but rather to explain why certain nicknames catch on with people.)

By: M4A3E8sherman

M4A3E8sherman — Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:33:21 +0000

“They feed the light tanks”
I’ve seen very few LTs that manage to kill arty in the early or midgame. In a way, can’t blame them-the lanes are locked down too tight to pull off flanking attacks most of the time. This is also why people who tell you to flank heavily armored tanks when you have crap pen are often speaking nonsense.
“they squash tomatoes”
Unless they hold their fire for the entire match to get a shot off at better players.
“they keep heavies from camping”
Holding a chokepoint? What else are heavies supposed to do, rush ahead and get killed or kemp behind bush all day so they never get spotted?
Heck, I can’t even sit in the same place and reload between 2 shots in my M46 without risking a massive caliber shell dropping on my arse. In fact, the only thing arty makes me do is execute a dance routine until some seconds after I’m no longer spotted (important to do that-once you disappear, SPGs often take blind shots at your last known position) or hide behind a building, and then proceed with what I was doing before. Unfortunately, this is often not possible during a fight, because apparently moving in and out of cover while shooting every chance you get until the enemy is dead is “camping”.
“If you are intelligent and are able to predict where arty will be and plan accordingly they become nothing more than a useful exp source.”
So arty locks down sections of the map (as if much of it weren’t already useless) and forces players to limit themselves because…why? They get smashed out of the sky by vehicles they have no chance of retaliating against?

By: TheHef

TheHef — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:52:58 +0000

please stop calling them cancer, they are an important part of the tanking community. They feed the light tanks, they squash tomatoes, and they keep heavies from camping. If you are intelligent and are able to predict where arty will be and plan accordingly they become nothing more than a useful exp source. That being said I am so glad they are nerfing the fv304 so it cant permatrack me anymore.

By: netherprime

netherprime — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:04:36 +0000

it’s not cool, some of us have actual reasons for how arty works right now and wish for it to change, i used to use the word “cancer” because it briefly explains what it is to this game but at the same time you can’t really remove it as it would create more issues.

right now I just want it to be redesigned from it’s one-shot machine and 5 other misses.

i mean why the hell should a person sit there for 5 minutes missing anyway(on a bad day, on a good day you can hit everything so it equals out) and then suddenly hit someone for 1k+.

if the first shot hits you, you’re fucked and have no way to retaliate as you’ve lost the majority of your hp, lost a few modules/crew and now need to play much more conservative than before.

By: netherprime

netherprime — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 11:59:27 +0000

this made me laugh

By: Tiberiu Micu

Tiberiu Micu — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 08:25:02 +0000

Seems funny, but I wish I could understand what he’s saying.

By: Skarakien

Skarakien — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 07:31:03 +0000

http://i2.obozrevatel.ua/8/1515273/gallery/571985.jpg

Like this?

By: Skarakien

Skarakien — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 07:24:47 +0000

and EU tree…

By: exocet6951

exocet6951 — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:45:22 +0000

People disliked it before, but the rage stayed in arty topic of the forums and the game.

It didn’t get called cancer and people didn’t go in a blind rage of pure unadulterated fury as the slightest insinuation of its existence.
So yeah, that idiotic hatred to a new level IS new, as people didn’t hate it as much when it was a much bigger problem.
That’s why it’s a “cool” bandwagon,

By: Warstore

Warstore — Tue, 09 Sep 2014 04:54:52 +0000

I wonder why would they feel the need to release a “commercial” about this subject now. Maybe because people don’t know their products? Nah!! Could it be because people see the exact opposite image of WG? Very likely.