Comments on: Ensign’s Q&A #23

By: Little_Red_Devil

Little_Red_Devil — Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:27:13 +0000

just divide the number (lbs) by 2 (two) and it will give you a estimate of kgs

By: f16falcona46

f16falcona46 — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 14:24:12 +0000

It would depend if the shells were on a delay fuze. If they were not, then they wouldn’t have any pen since they would explode the instant they hit anything.
Also, gameplay>real life.

By: Dexter5021

Dexter5021 — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:53:33 +0000

A non-penetrating HE shell with 150mm pen do the same damage than a zero penetration HE shell. For example a 2000 damage HE shell explodes next to the side of the IS-3. With 105 mm avg pen, it has good chance to pen its 90mm side armor.
When it pens, the IS-3 takes ~1000 damage (and possibly a bunch of module and crew damage)
When it does not pen, the HE damage will be reduced according to the following formula:
actualdamage = 0.5 x nominaldamage x (1 – impactdistance/splashradius) – 1.1 x nominalarmorthickness x spallcoefficient
a IS-3 with heavy spall liner will take maximum 872 damage from a non-pen 2000 dmg HE shell in this case.

And when said HE shell has zero penetration, it will never pen and it would never do 1000 damage (even if it hits a 20 mm part of the tank)

By: strvinar

strvinar — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:02:56 +0000

but you cant have zero pen HE shells..
on account of its weight
it has mass. it has momentum. it WILL pen something..

By: Dexter5021

Dexter5021 — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:45:15 +0000

Yes but i talk about zero pen HE shells (its BS, but WoT is an arcade game, not a simulator) If a normal 203mm HE hits the top turret armor of the IS-3, its instant game over, but if a zero pen HE hits it, it causes “only” ~900 damage maximum(wich is not good either, but its still better than oneshotted)

By: Foxton

Foxton — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:44:26 +0000

It matters due to game mechanics. A shell could do 5k damage and have 50m of splash but with 0 penetration it won’t do anything unless there’s any 0mm armour lying around. HE shells use their splash mechanic to “find” lowest measurements of armour in the splash, but it still needs to defeat that armour to do damage, even splash damage (non-penetrating).

By: strvinar

strvinar — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:29:48 +0000

bro, do you even math?

top turret armor in is3 is 20mm, so is the engine cover.
if you dropped a 50kg (something like M795 155mm) arty shell from the top of its arc, it would still penetrate the tank. gravity is a bitch..
that shell is detonating inside..
and that tank is dead..

By: tearan

tearan — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:27:22 +0000

I like how they dont realise the size of arty shells: CGC: The standard shell weight was 290 pounds (130 kg), later marks had 11-18kg load of HE filled with Amatol, TNT or Lyddite. Barrel of 23cm*81cm flying in air, not gonna rect a thing, I suppose

By: Woras

Woras — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 07:33:03 +0000

Not going to convert those bullshit imperial units.

By: Rade

Rade — Sun, 26 Oct 2014 07:23:56 +0000

Troll ?

1 lb = 0.453 592 37 kg