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		<title>By: Bokuden</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/10/26/wargaming-still-in-black-numbers/#comment-214094</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bokuden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 05:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wargaming is a public company, therefore they have to publish financial reports. This data is easily found and not assumptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wargaming is a public company, therefore they have to publish financial reports. This data is easily found and not assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Bokuden</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/10/26/wargaming-still-in-black-numbers/#comment-214093</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bokuden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 05:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Practically everything on the list are f2p models.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Practically everything on the list are f2p models.</p>
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		<title>By: mybackhurts</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 01:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nice. thanks for the tip just followed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice. thanks for the tip just followed.</p>
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		<title>By: Haldaris</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 12:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wtf you talking about? lol does not have pay to win, if you pay rp for champions you are a loser, you can buy anything but skins with ip, go lie in another place.
And by the numbers evidently they have a good free to play model.

Wargaming is spending money on wo-warpalnes and wo-warships, that&#039;s all, games needs money to develop, woa is bad, thus no earning money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wtf you talking about? lol does not have pay to win, if you pay rp for champions you are a loser, you can buy anything but skins with ip, go lie in another place.<br />
And by the numbers evidently they have a good free to play model.</p>
<p>Wargaming is spending money on wo-warpalnes and wo-warships, that&#8217;s all, games needs money to develop, woa is bad, thus no earning money.</p>
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		<title>By: lonigus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Republic of Wargamingo! Lmfao :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republic of Wargamingo! Lmfao :D</p>
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		<title>By: lonigus</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well you dont mess with the LoL fanbase. Their community is a bunch of the most hardcore fanboys ever seen. Ive seen streamers who talked shit about LoL being constantly chat spammed and in the worst case taken down for days from ddos attacks, rofl... I was trying Dota good 5 or 6 years ago and I didnt like it. Mobas are nothing for me.

It also quite interesting that DFO is so strong in the table. Ive never heard of that game before and only thanx to this revenue table i noticed it the last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you dont mess with the LoL fanbase. Their community is a bunch of the most hardcore fanboys ever seen. Ive seen streamers who talked shit about LoL being constantly chat spammed and in the worst case taken down for days from ddos attacks, rofl&#8230; I was trying Dota good 5 or 6 years ago and I didnt like it. Mobas are nothing for me.</p>
<p>It also quite interesting that DFO is so strong in the table. Ive never heard of that game before and only thanx to this revenue table i noticed it the last year.</p>
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		<title>By: jakub_czyli_ja</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lightbulb for all shouldn&#039;t change the gameplay much.

Good players already have it, so no change, bad players won&#039;t notice since they tend to have tunnel vision.

Accuracy nerf will suck and will bring more p2w. Increasing armor value while gold ammo is available for everyone is a bullshit - players will want to be able to point and click, so they will load more gold.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lightbulb for all shouldn&#8217;t change the gameplay much.</p>
<p>Good players already have it, so no change, bad players won&#8217;t notice since they tend to have tunnel vision.</p>
<p>Accuracy nerf will suck and will bring more p2w. Increasing armor value while gold ammo is available for everyone is a bullshit &#8211; players will want to be able to point and click, so they will load more gold.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Beauregard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jack Beauregard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 03:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry but this is bullshit.

These numbers are nothing but an educated guess about how much money WG PROBABLY makes from their customers. It is based on an ASSUMED customer base and an ASSUMED market share and an ASSUMED revenue per capita.
Speaking of revenue- revenue is turnover. It means it is all the money taht goes into Wargaming. From this money is to be subtracted ALL THE COST, from running the servers, the development, the marketing, the customer service headquarters the rent for them and so on and so on. You cannot have a bloody clue how much that is. It is not likely they lose money without doubt, but before you are sneering about &quot;black numbers&quot; make sure you have a clue about the basics of accounting. &quot;Revenue&quot; IS NOT &quot;Net Profit&quot;. And Net Profit is not Cashflow and Cashflow is what&#039;s needed to develop all three games they make. And the matter of fact is - noone has a clue how much money they actually have for that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry but this is bullshit.</p>
<p>These numbers are nothing but an educated guess about how much money WG PROBABLY makes from their customers. It is based on an ASSUMED customer base and an ASSUMED market share and an ASSUMED revenue per capita.<br />
Speaking of revenue- revenue is turnover. It means it is all the money taht goes into Wargaming. From this money is to be subtracted ALL THE COST, from running the servers, the development, the marketing, the customer service headquarters the rent for them and so on and so on. You cannot have a bloody clue how much that is. It is not likely they lose money without doubt, but before you are sneering about &#8220;black numbers&#8221; make sure you have a clue about the basics of accounting. &#8220;Revenue&#8221; IS NOT &#8220;Net Profit&#8221;. And Net Profit is not Cashflow and Cashflow is what&#8217;s needed to develop all three games they make. And the matter of fact is &#8211; noone has a clue how much money they actually have for that.</p>
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		<title>By: joemajor8721</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SMITE FTW! :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SMITE FTW! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Toiski</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toiski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2014 20:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their position is the same. Let&#039;s say Maplestory was at the same $240M and Wargaming at $250M last year, in the same spot. Now they&#039;re at $369M. Their increase in revenue would be over 45%.

It probably wasn&#039;t that big, but I&#039;d expect a 10% increase at least, maybe 20%.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their position is the same. Let&#8217;s say Maplestory was at the same $240M and Wargaming at $250M last year, in the same spot. Now they&#8217;re at $369M. Their increase in revenue would be over 45%.</p>
<p>It probably wasn&#8217;t that big, but I&#8217;d expect a 10% increase at least, maybe 20%.</p>
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