Comments on: Nuts and Bolts: Communications and Guns

By: jlrdsr

jlrdsr — Sun, 09 Nov 2014 05:05:01 +0000

but the 12.8cm guns used on the jagdtiger were mass produced, they just had not had the time to make very many, and not enough jadgtiger chassis were ready, but they were in production, and used in towed AT guns, of which there were a few around. but i guess that’s not a tank. The 88mm L71 had much more penetration and velocity than the 122mm, but the smaller caliber made it that less explosives could be fitted inside the shell, but it made up for it with the extra kinetic energy form the grater velocity. they were just about equal in “power” these two guns, they just got that “power” in different ways. the 88mm would have more penetration, but the 122mm would retain momentum better at range because of the grater mass, thus a lower penetration loss rate, so its very hard to make a clear choice to which gun is “better” or more “powerful”. they are cool videos though.

By: TwixOps

TwixOps — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 19:48:53 +0000

Ehm… no it is not. AA guns were very often modified into tank cannon as they usually had extremely high gun velocitys, and readily available ammunition,

The British had 3 inch, 3.7 inch and 4.5 inch guns that were modified from AA

The American M1/2 90mm gun was their ubiquitous AA gun of the time, there were thousands of them kicking about before we started sticking them in tanks like the slugger and later the Pershing.

The germans obviously had their famous 8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41, as well as their 10,5cm Flak 38/39, and even the 12,8cm FlaK 40, all of which were adapted for direct fire roles at one time or another.

The Italians used their 90mm Cannone da 90/53 in a dual AA/direct fire role.

The Soviets very successfully modified their 85mm AA gun for both tank and AT use, the gun was extremely well produced for both roles with many thousands of examples being made.

By: Drakko

Drakko — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 18:17:58 +0000

Actually it uses the pressure from the explosive to transform the copper lining inside it into a jet that has so high pressure it pushes the molecules in the armor apart.

But you are indeed correct, “melting” the armor is pure bullshit.

By: Alexander Yordanov

Alexander Yordanov — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 16:35:05 +0000

Ohh… It definitely is at least as powerful.

That HE shell…

By: Delta0071

Delta0071 — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:30:55 +0000

Well…from their point of view, Jagdtiger is not really a mass-produced tank, I guess.
Still, I think IS-2′s 122 is still not as powerful as King Tiger’s long 88.

By: Delta0071

Delta0071 — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:28:46 +0000

Borderland-Audio Network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn8k046dihk

By: jkksir

jkksir — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:13:13 +0000

You are not the only one my friend, I’ve shazamed the shit out these videos to no avail :))

By: AT_PT

AT_PT — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 14:31:28 +0000

The projectile is solid but acts like a liquid in the contact with the armor, due to the high velocity. The front end of the jet can move ~10000 m/s.

Plasma, gas or liquid it is not, nor is the armor melted per se, it’s just pushed away.

By: ClassicFrog (EU)

ClassicFrog (EU) — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:33:56 +0000

Some nice reply :)

So, in comparison to smoothbore, how many times modern rifled barrel could fire before it needs to be replaced? (modern, as in, when they were still in use)

By: T3K

T3K — Fri, 07 Nov 2014 13:14:25 +0000

the thing about AA guns being good for tanks is complete bull…it causes a shitload of problems… -_- get your shit right WG