Comments on: Panther 88 in the Premium Shop…

By: Tobiaz1991

Tobiaz1991 — Wed, 24 Dec 2014 05:03:12 +0000

You do know why those stats give a wrong impression. Server stats are the worst for things like this. Its like the E50m, worst turret armor, worst mobility, biggest lower plate weakness, worst dpm, worst camo.
Its a tank with big flaws yet its the thirth most played med after batchat and T62.
Furthermore the players who do play E50m are generally good to very good.
Almost no newbies play E50m they most likely wont even make it up that line of brutally hard tanks to play.

You point out statistical data. Let me give you factual data.
So lets say we divide tanks in snipers and brawlers.
Brawlers like T-34-2, -3, type 59, T44, …
Tanks with lower pen but much better mobility and decent turrets, T44 has worst turret but best gun stats.
Snipers like P2, P88, STA, cent, indien,…
Among those P2 or P88 has the lowest pen, 15 to 20 less pen, a big difference.
However if we look at gold pen we see its barely better then what two brawlers get, type 59 (241 which gets pref mm) and T44 (235) which gets better mobility and better gun stats.
All the other tier 8 tanks have 20-40 more gold pen, thats the difference between penning an E75 in the lower plate or not.

88/L71 cannot pen an E75 from the front… good luck with tier 10′s with a bought tank without preff mm… when a better alternative is availeble, FCM…

By: Robert Schöller

Robert Schöller — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 20:40:27 +0000

17 Games, 76% WR, 1372 average damage…

By: DemolitionDmitrij

DemolitionDmitrij — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 15:09:31 +0000

Ah yeah, Hydro, got one myself. That thing isnt actually that bad considering its prem MM.

By: ClassicFrog (EU)

ClassicFrog (EU) — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 14:01:51 +0000

If you tell me it does deserve a buff I’ll say I agree entirely :)

By: MonauralSpider

MonauralSpider — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 11:35:47 +0000

dident even knowe that the Panter needed reduced armour i used the 88 when it hade its own but never got the feeling it hade to mutch armour

By: dxzit

dxzit — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 08:18:23 +0000

If you download a “service” and then use it, you can’t get a refund.
EU law on digital services states that.

If you don’t like the Hitlertank because you had a couple of games, you’re not getting a refund.
If you don’t play it at all, you can get a refund. The services part excludes tradesmen and WG certainly aren’t plumbers.

By: zeroyuki9221

zeroyuki9221 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 05:02:13 +0000

Statistical data > Your opinon.

By: ArmoredColossus

ArmoredColossus — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:38:20 +0000

A TRUE German Tank Collector would NEVER say they have too many German tanks :D

By: ArmoredColossus

ArmoredColossus — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 02:32:22 +0000

Not everyone is the best player, or stat whore or stat padder, I mean honestly you know most tier 10 battles 1/3-1/2 the team does less than 600-1,000 damage.

By: Ultrasonic2

Ultrasonic2 — Tue, 23 Dec 2014 00:15:01 +0000

MEH i was updating the last post but i kicked me out

Well according to previous FTR posts the 88 should be better than the panther 2

it has
more dpm 2176 V 1972
better accuracy 0.307 V 0.34
better aim time 2.4 V 2.7
better turret rotate ( effective faster aim time ) 33.4 V 30
but does have less depression -5 -8

It is 4kp slower
Has less power to weight ratio but is pretty much the same 12.9 V 12.98
But has 28 % better road resistance so in practice is faster
Faster hull rotate 38 V 36

it has less armor but does that even matter now.

With that accuracy it will hit weak spots at range with ease and with the INCREASE in mobility it will be a better “medium”

i would have bought it if it wasn’t for -5