Comments on: Artillery Map Guide by Tyraforce – Part 1: Swamp

By: cb99

cb99 — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 21:27:47 +0000

Gj a nice follow up,
Don’t play them so often but I always love a good read on tactics.
I do play every class, because that way you learn the most IMO.

-cb99

By: Rokra

Rokra — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 16:13:52 +0000

Yep, selfish/self centered asshole

By: Tyra

Tyra — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 12:43:08 +0000

a) the G7/8 area is arty-safe so you can’t shoot it anyway
b) there is not much you can do there except shooting the central tomato zone
c) the enemy will push you out of there as soon as they clear the rest of the southern tomato zone
d) I got shot going there in tanks like T71. It may be safe in the Soviet meds but I’d really love to see you getting an IS7 across the bridge without getting shot.

I don’t think that area is worth the risk and time but you are right it’s not a true tomato area.

By: lonigus

lonigus — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 12:25:43 +0000

Hi. Is this game free to play?

By: SidOfTheNorth

SidOfTheNorth — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:57:33 +0000

Yes, and I don’t care that they thing I’m an asshole either, but you are wrong, I think it is really fun!

It is always fun to mess with people that takes things to serious and gets really upset for small meaningless stuff, like this is. It is a game, play it for fun and take it for what it is, it has arty, so like it, or don’t play the game. But some just get sooo upset, and that makes me smile :)

By: macmac

macmac — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:36:01 +0000

this tyraforce dont play much fast tanks and small hull tanks with unpenetrable tower
for uper base g7 g8 for him is tomato area , i would add tomato and unicum land if u are in plat of 3 meds u have to go thereand def this iland u can always go back driving of this clif
and run away easier than from d4 d3. u can go there in is 7 cos they cann se only your turret and if u drive light tank its must to take area , u spoting them when they takin this hill and when they do they will be spoted from 50 m radius you cos u can camp under this clif covered by campers

By: divinity_123

divinity_123 — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:31:05 +0000

And let me show you how much more powerful BC 155 58 can be as compared to Fv 304.
For this particular game in the replay, you can move all the way to H0 (his zone F for the opposite team) and shoot at targets at line 1 through line 4. This is possible because H0 has a low ground which will get you covered from F9, and you have will have good aim on targets trying to hide from line 1. Better still, they usually would park still and give you their rear, so you will have a better chance of hitting and dealing massive damage.
Look at his shoots into the T110E5, is that skill of aiming? He did not even pull reticle back to make the shell fly higher to avoid the hill. And his shots at WT E100 are all lucky ones, and obviously they do not penetrate because he is just sitting a bit away from the base. Imagine how pain those shots would be if he relocates to H0.

By: divinity_123

divinity_123 — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:17:43 +0000

All arty works the same way:
Get to good positions and strike priority targets (unicums in tanks that can carry games, not campers or slow tomatoes) that think they are safe.

The only difference is probably that you need to take higher risk in your fv 304 to get good damage. You could play almost the same way in your BC 155 58, and better still, you have a turret which allows you for faster locking down onto your targets. Do not believe me? Check this out:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTI4Mjc5NjQ0.html

It is in Chinese but I am sure you can see the difference between what Tyra is talking and what he is doing. Although this is a really old video (because the author is no longer releasing videos on his channel) the same tactics could be applied.

Regarding stats. 1.2k average damage versus 1k is like 20% damage more. Or if you like, I make 2-3 damaging shots more than him. Given 50% hit ratio in this arty, I do make 4-6 shots per game more than him. If that is not a huge difference, then consider how long the arty reloads. I am doing damage for 1 whole minute more than him. And to achieve that, you need to get targets to shoot at in the first place, hence, the difference of damage shows how I relocate actively and he does not.

By: divinity_123

divinity_123 — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 08:00:25 +0000

52% win rate is really convincing? Then about 30% of the WoT players are considered professional at this game. Oh wait…

And regarding his replay and comments. I can confirm with you that he does not know what he is talking about. That level of damage is just another normal game in arty, anyone that knows how to click with half brain working can achieve that.
http://imgur.com/a/lxomE

Here is one of the games I played on test server, with 400 ping, during 8.6 common test. Does it mean that I am a more skilled arty player that knows how to aim? Or relocate? (look at the distance I traveled during that game)

http://www.noobmeter.com/recent/eu/Tyraforce/512406947/512406947_00025795_20141227_020408/512406947_00026395_20150107_013304
Noobmeter stats, here we go. In the last 600 games he played, he has 27 BC 155 58 games, 21 M41 games, 20 Fv207 games, 19 GW E100 games, and 15 S-51 games. That is less than 100 games in the most recent 600. Now tell me that he plays enough arty games to know what he is talking about.
Moreover, he mostly plays medium tanks, but his stats are far away from a real unicum. Just compare my stats to his. BTW I pub solo most of the times, and I only platoon with friends I know, which all are just average players.

By: Rokra

Rokra — Fri, 09 Jan 2015 06:53:51 +0000

Good analogy