Comments on: Wargaming Punishment System Results of 2014

By: ajappat

ajappat — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 19:58:57 +0000

That graph about bot users. How come, that they know how many there still are, yet they are not banned?

By: Kalith

Kalith — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 18:20:36 +0000

I can guarantee you it happens, I got a 1 day ban for unsportsmanlike conduct and I have no idea what I have done to deserve it. Also I’ve had several 1 hour bans for killing a ‘teammate’ who is purposely doing team damage.

Don’t get me wrong, a reporting system is useful to make the game more fair. And yes you can’t check all the replays, you need to base yourself on some kind of statistic, but it can definitely be improved upon.

First of all being able to report people on the enemy team for is plain bs. Especially for something like “unsportsmanlike conduct”, that’s not for them to judge.

Second, if a team member is doing a lot of team damage, you need to be allowed to stop him. It’s bad enough that you are 1 tank down, but what if he takes out 1, 2 or 3 more. Yes he’ll eventually turn blue and/or get banned, but sometimes it’s not fast. and I refuse to lose because of something like this.

And maybe instead of completely automating the system, they can at least review the ban.

People who win 60%+ of their games probably didn’t get there by doing a lot of things that can be considered “unsportsmanlike”. Good players usually don’t go around randomly executing team members, they probably have a damn good reason.

Call it elitist if you want, but I’m not too happy that on top of the abuse I get sometimes for being a good player and the special arty attention. I now have to watch out for the ban hammer if I play too well or if I refuse to lose because someone starts shooting my own team.

By: INamexI

INamexI — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 17:08:04 +0000

Meanwhile on WG EU, moar and moar bots, and none is banned

By: Potilas

Potilas — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:00:01 +0000

This could be solved by making a replay of every game on the server. With this every player would get the same replay with the possibility to switch perspective from allies to enemies. One could then download this replay afterwards for a while after it would get destroyed. With this feature WG moderators could see if someone was using something fishy.

By: jerv

jerv — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:43:58 +0000

I have only seen one even though I tend to sit and snipe a lot. Maybe it’s my reliable connection, maybe my (usually) stable system, maybe you need to sit longer than I generally do, or maybe they sorted it out while I was away.
That one exception was when a power fluctuation caused my computer to shut down mid-battle; I rebooted, restarted the client, and wound up in my garage with an idle warning. So I think it may punish those with unreliable systems/connections more than the truly idle.

By: sorensch_says_wot

sorensch_says_wot — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 10:11:26 +0000

Funny how 134341 is so easy to type with the left hand on the keyboard :-p

By: Jabster

Jabster — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 09:39:27 +0000

Well they could be true(ish) but a few points do spring to mind.

If the number of punishments really is true doesn’t that suggest that the report system is automated, as said by Ectar of the EU forums, due to the large numbers. Do WG really manual processing that many investigations – seems unlikely.

Why the jump in the numbers reported. It’s around 2,000 and then suddenly jumps to around 5,000 and ends up at over 7,000. Maybe they do manual investigations and they put more resource into it or maybe the number of reports to trigger an auto-ban, if that’s how it works, changed?

How do they know the number of bots in a game. Surely all this is saying is that they system they use to detect bots and then hand out bans has reduced the number of active bots we can detect?

Last but not least, why isn’t this information available on the EU server. I really don’t see how they can keep hiding behind data protection laws means we can’t do it argument.

By: Yndy_

Yndy_ — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 07:53:05 +0000

I believe the numbers are true, I got a “spam dossier” disconnect once and I believe the only thing my dossier can have is reports from those I’ve reported myself and announced in chat.

So I assume the system is reasonably well balanced and I’ll continue to use my reports responsibly in 2015 too. I hope I got a lot of people banned.

By: noobz

noobz — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 06:06:31 +0000

looks like an elc amx

By: Mr_Ekshin

Mr_Ekshin — Sun, 11 Jan 2015 03:44:46 +0000

↑ This.
Tournaments with specific tank rules is a good example. If you can’t have more that 2 tanks of the same kind, they don’t filter, and you can take 3 of them anyway.

Which means that the other team has to register a complaint to sort it out.
This has happened to my team (we effed-up). We won and then we told the other guys they had to file a complaint to fix it (we ended up in an alliance with them, so even goofs are a good way to meet people).

I could write that filter system myself. Why don’t they?
Why can’t they?