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		<title>By: Rad Y</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rad Y]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The whole conversation came about when he was asked if WoWp Devs were going to start doing something to draw in(the ever present drum beat of Clan Wars) or even advertise so as to get people in the larger WoT community to give the game another try(I know...I was there and part of the conversation).Most argued that it made sense seeing as the dreaded MM was fixed(a big thanks to gunlion for going to the mat for the NA community).The game had honestly made some improvements...so why not advertise?I(as well as others) honestly thought that a cross promotion of the game into WoT might be in order to say &quot;he give it a try...one more time&quot;.Maybe time may had eased memory of the crap reputation that game had on release or guidance from the incompetent community managers that were there before gunlion or even handling of the dreaded &quot;event that shall not be named&quot;(a true PR disaster if there ever was one).

So yes gunlion(while limited in power to other than being a tiny voice for the tiny NA community and mouth piece for WG) responded with a large amount of flowery verbatim but with some gems in it. The standard line of &quot;we are having meetings and stuff is happening but we can&#039;t tell you what&quot;(the standard WG response of &quot;soon&quot;),the more interesting and sad aspect about filling out matches(read as bots to make full games..no more 3vs3,5vs5..etc) but what SS said still stands and no amount of fandom can alter the cold hard facts.From the community standpoint I for one think it is a hell of a let down and sucks...but feel that gunlion has no sway in the decision.His response is that WG does not see the gain in cross promotions or advertising as being worth the cost..hence no effort will be made.

Then we get the obligatory response of &quot;We are going to continue supporting World of Warplanes in NA. &quot;...and yes read what you will through rose colored glasses on that this but they have to say this from a business standpoint...because as soon as there is an inkling that support has dropped..the community goes from stagnant(hey we almost had 1000 players on last weekend) to free-fall. While being on the cusp of opening WoWs....WG simply can not afford the advertising that would bring.

I like the game(tried WT and found it meeh) and see potential for it but you would have to be delusional to the point of drinking the community flavor aid to think that the game is doing well.Anyways I am still awaiting the promised Dev communication with the NA community that never happened....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole conversation came about when he was asked if WoWp Devs were going to start doing something to draw in(the ever present drum beat of Clan Wars) or even advertise so as to get people in the larger WoT community to give the game another try(I know&#8230;I was there and part of the conversation).Most argued that it made sense seeing as the dreaded MM was fixed(a big thanks to gunlion for going to the mat for the NA community).The game had honestly made some improvements&#8230;so why not advertise?I(as well as others) honestly thought that a cross promotion of the game into WoT might be in order to say &#8220;he give it a try&#8230;one more time&#8221;.Maybe time may had eased memory of the crap reputation that game had on release or guidance from the incompetent community managers that were there before gunlion or even handling of the dreaded &#8220;event that shall not be named&#8221;(a true PR disaster if there ever was one).</p>
<p>So yes gunlion(while limited in power to other than being a tiny voice for the tiny NA community and mouth piece for WG) responded with a large amount of flowery verbatim but with some gems in it. The standard line of &#8220;we are having meetings and stuff is happening but we can&#8217;t tell you what&#8221;(the standard WG response of &#8220;soon&#8221;),the more interesting and sad aspect about filling out matches(read as bots to make full games..no more 3vs3,5vs5..etc) but what SS said still stands and no amount of fandom can alter the cold hard facts.From the community standpoint I for one think it is a hell of a let down and sucks&#8230;but feel that gunlion has no sway in the decision.His response is that WG does not see the gain in cross promotions or advertising as being worth the cost..hence no effort will be made.</p>
<p>Then we get the obligatory response of &#8220;We are going to continue supporting World of Warplanes in NA. &#8220;&#8230;and yes read what you will through rose colored glasses on that this but they have to say this from a business standpoint&#8230;because as soon as there is an inkling that support has dropped..the community goes from stagnant(hey we almost had 1000 players on last weekend) to free-fall. While being on the cusp of opening WoWs&#8230;.WG simply can not afford the advertising that would bring.</p>
<p>I like the game(tried WT and found it meeh) and see potential for it but you would have to be delusional to the point of drinking the community flavor aid to think that the game is doing well.Anyways I am still awaiting the promised Dev communication with the NA community that never happened&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: jagodinac11</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jagodinac11]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a couple of thounsands battles in WOWP beta. Farmed arround 6 months of premium account that was usable on WOT. Remember when there were missions for in-game tokens which u could use to buy premium time?
After beta I have roughly 1,5 k battles... and I can say this:
1. There is more ppl who like tanks more than planes and therefore more ppl playing tanks
and those who would play WOWP just does not have enough time to play both games. When compared, WOT will allways be upfront of WOWP. Allways. Its that simple.
And those WOT players who plays WT they rarely play WT Planes but WT Tanks. Tanks will allways come first!
2. Give some premium/gold rewards on WOWP that can be used thanks to the unified WG account and more ppl would come. I know that I would as well as some of my clanmates.
3. When WOWS come arround I will try it, for sure. And play it, sure. But WOT will be allways my first choice. No matter how great would be playing ships...

Tanks allways comes first! But LONG LIVE WOWP!!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a couple of thounsands battles in WOWP beta. Farmed arround 6 months of premium account that was usable on WOT. Remember when there were missions for in-game tokens which u could use to buy premium time?<br />
After beta I have roughly 1,5 k battles&#8230; and I can say this:<br />
1. There is more ppl who like tanks more than planes and therefore more ppl playing tanks<br />
and those who would play WOWP just does not have enough time to play both games. When compared, WOT will allways be upfront of WOWP. Allways. Its that simple.<br />
And those WOT players who plays WT they rarely play WT Planes but WT Tanks. Tanks will allways come first!<br />
2. Give some premium/gold rewards on WOWP that can be used thanks to the unified WG account and more ppl would come. I know that I would as well as some of my clanmates.<br />
3. When WOWS come arround I will try it, for sure. And play it, sure. But WOT will be allways my first choice. No matter how great would be playing ships&#8230;</p>
<p>Tanks allways comes first! But LONG LIVE WOWP!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: trebizond</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[trebizond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gaijin Entertainment is many things, but they most certainly are NOT a flight-sim developer.  Prior to War Thunder all air combat games they made were arcade trash intended primarily for consoles.  Despite the annoyingly persistent rumor that they developed the entire IL-2 series, that was in fact 1C:Maddox Games.  Gaijin only did IL2: Birds of Prey, which was, as stated above, a consolized arcade fest.  

All that said, War Thunder is obviously better than WoWP, but Gaijin isn&#039;t any more capable of pulling off a realistic flight-sim than Wargaming is.  It&#039;s proof enough that almost the entire hardcore World War II flight-sim community avoids War Thunder like the plague.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gaijin Entertainment is many things, but they most certainly are NOT a flight-sim developer.  Prior to War Thunder all air combat games they made were arcade trash intended primarily for consoles.  Despite the annoyingly persistent rumor that they developed the entire IL-2 series, that was in fact 1C:Maddox Games.  Gaijin only did IL2: Birds of Prey, which was, as stated above, a consolized arcade fest.  </p>
<p>All that said, War Thunder is obviously better than WoWP, but Gaijin isn&#8217;t any more capable of pulling off a realistic flight-sim than Wargaming is.  It&#8217;s proof enough that almost the entire hardcore World War II flight-sim community avoids War Thunder like the plague.</p>
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		<title>By: OpenIDUser44</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268408</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OpenIDUser44]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Trying to walk back and explain gunlion’s(who is the best manager to hit the NA community..the rest were dreadful) own words when it is right there for all to see?&quot;

Try reading his whole post and not just the parts that SS highlighted for you.  Gunlion is a great manager, and what he says in the post is about 180 degrees off of what SS claims (yet again).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Trying to walk back and explain gunlion’s(who is the best manager to hit the NA community..the rest were dreadful) own words when it is right there for all to see?&#8221;</p>
<p>Try reading his whole post and not just the parts that SS highlighted for you.  Gunlion is a great manager, and what he says in the post is about 180 degrees off of what SS claims (yet again).</p>
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		<title>By: DeathOnYourSix</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeathOnYourSix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Convenient how you can frame a story by clipping only the parts that make things look bad. 

Why would they shut it down? We have unified accounts, unified clans, and there are rumors of unified clan maps. A clan would only control a territory if the won land, air and sea. But, whatever. Haters gonna hate.

Oh yeah, Sterling. An old guy says &quot;Go Hawks!&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Convenient how you can frame a story by clipping only the parts that make things look bad. </p>
<p>Why would they shut it down? We have unified accounts, unified clans, and there are rumors of unified clan maps. A clan would only control a territory if the won land, air and sea. But, whatever. Haters gonna hate.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, Sterling. An old guy says &#8220;Go Hawks!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: DeathOnYourSix</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268397</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeathOnYourSix]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He didn&#039;t say it was crap. He admitted there are problems. Thats more than Storm will do. Storm just says &quot;Everything is Awesome!&quot; whenever an obvious problem is brought up. 
I do understand why alot of tankers dislike it, you have be 3D aware. That&#039;s why so many hate arty also. Never know if something will hit you from above. Same with WoWP. You have to watch above and below you, not just horizontally.
They won&#039;t pull the plug, no matter how much you want them too. It is doing very good in russia, and good in eu. It can&#039;t cost them that much in NA as it is on the same server as WoT.

Now let the flamers start!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t say it was crap. He admitted there are problems. Thats more than Storm will do. Storm just says &#8220;Everything is Awesome!&#8221; whenever an obvious problem is brought up.<br />
I do understand why alot of tankers dislike it, you have be 3D aware. That&#8217;s why so many hate arty also. Never know if something will hit you from above. Same with WoWP. You have to watch above and below you, not just horizontally.<br />
They won&#8217;t pull the plug, no matter how much you want them too. It is doing very good in russia, and good in eu. It can&#8217;t cost them that much in NA as it is on the same server as WoT.</p>
<p>Now let the flamers start!</p>
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		<title>By: Sterling Dedic</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268302</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sterling Dedic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice job making it say what you want it to say, just like these WT fanboys, WT IS NOT a simulator by any stretch of the imagination, just like Tanks is not a tank sim. You want a real combat flight simulator try DCS, most Warthud players would probably have issues getting off the runway.

An important item that you failed to highlight in your disinformation article, probably intentionally is, and I quote Gunlion, &quot;We are going to continue supporting World of Warplanes in NA.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice job making it say what you want it to say, just like these WT fanboys, WT IS NOT a simulator by any stretch of the imagination, just like Tanks is not a tank sim. You want a real combat flight simulator try DCS, most Warthud players would probably have issues getting off the runway.</p>
<p>An important item that you failed to highlight in your disinformation article, probably intentionally is, and I quote Gunlion, &#8220;We are going to continue supporting World of Warplanes in NA.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: WARLOCK360100 .</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268163</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WARLOCK360100 .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I cant wait to see that you are maybe wrong  about WoWs xD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant wait to see that you are maybe wrong  about WoWs xD.</p>
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		<title>By: WARLOCK360100 .</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WARLOCK360100 .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed xD,its the main reason why I rarely play WoT]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed xD,its the main reason why I rarely play WoT</p>
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		<title>By: WARLOCK360100 .</title>
		<link>http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/23/wargaming-limits-world-of-warplanes-advertising/#comment-268161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WARLOCK360100 .]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait until CBT or the full release,WoWs gameplay will be completely different than WoT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait until CBT or the full release,WoWs gameplay will be completely different than WoT.</p>
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