Source: http://world-of-ru.livejournal.com/3378731.html
Hello everyone,
the fact that the rear turret VK4502 was scheduled to be buffed at some point was no secret. However, interesting info appeared on Russian forums. The supertest client contains a VK4502 Ausf.B armor buff as such:
As you can see, the frontal “machinegun” weakspot disappeared and the frontal hull armor was buffed to 200mm or so, it’s really hard to tell from one gif, as the colors are close to each other. The armor is completely unhistorical of course, so they might as well buff it this way (it was unhistorical even before, historically this vehicle’s armor was 80mm thick or so), but I think the best course of action would be to replace this vehicle completely with something else.
Either way, please keep in mind that this buff was not mentioned even in 9.2 supertest notes, so it’s completely possible that it will NOT appear in the 9.2 live version. It’s good that the devs are thinking of buffing this tank though.
1st!
and goodie!
Bye bye. Ban hammer incoming
Captain Obvious strikes again!
Seriously, your replies are becoming repetitive as well.
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There’s nothing to question, you do not need to point out the obvious every-time they intentionally write first comment.
You know some german tanks are getting a buff too next patch (except broken ones)?
I said goodie because of the germen buff. and i said 1st because its my very 1st time in repying to a topic that hasent been touched. Also hello everyone completely new to this place, anyways back to the buff. I hope they do buff that VK it needs it seriously. an osalading back turret is a nerf in its own way.. at the sametime a buff.. example you can detrack people alot easier tge sooner they poke there track out. ik it dont mean anything butt.. it do mean you can keep him tracked so your team can punish him. I have the FV heavy tank. Anyways the armor buff helps this tank and clearly shows that wargaming is slowly.. slowly loseing its bi-est feelings for germeny. Anyway thats how i feel about it. Now anyone else feels that way?
It is far less mobile than the E75, seems just fair to give it more armor in return.
Unfortunately buffing the hull won’t do shit with this god awful turret on top. Buffing the turret roof from 40 to 60 is what this tank needs badly. Or both.
Maybe, but not having *any* frontal weakspots except the cupola? Yeah, I can’t see anything going wrong with this…
Oh yeah because the lower plate is strong as hell, and the e75 has a bunch of frontal weakpoints right?
Too late i had already got the Maus
I would be so happy
I still need to grind through this for the Maus, so +1 from me if it happens. Having said that though I’d rather they replaced it with something else entirely. :p
what i see tho, is that captains hatch, turret sides and gun mantlet have been nerfed to compensate for frontal armor overbuff!
how ever that is the stock turret so if the second turret is not nerfed we’re good!
i do consider the frontal armor of vk was pretty good tho, the problem is that wg always buffs armor instead of increasing loading speed!
You sure that’s nerfed? Check the colours, there’s a new armour group added, so the colours change because of that.
its the tiger 2 stock turret calm down.
You sure the Tiger II Porsche-Turret has 220mm frontal armor?
On the VK it has.
Only e75 has as stock this turet(tiger2), vk has stock more armored turet as stock.
yes the stock version on VK asuf.B has better armor!
F*ck the whereabouts of that turret, anybody else spotted that 252mm spaced armor being added somewhere? if that’s the gun mantlet, with the buff to the hull armor, this might be pretty nice buff actually
Didin’t they want to replace this tank with a mouse prototype anyway? Why buff it now ? Nerf it put it on tier 8 and implement maus prototype… done deal. All they do is creating even more work for them. Im still waiting for physics!
That vehicle is probably nowhere near complete
This tank deserves this kind of buff. If you compare its current state with E-75 you could see that it is worse in all aspects. Let’s hope that it will get it.
vk45B tank is perfectly playable as it is now, after a buff like this it will be OP as f*ck…. I have around 140+ battles in it now with around 69-70% WR and 2k avg dmg. Doesn’t need any armor buff (maybe a tad of mobility improvement), just brains to play it correctly.
2k avg damage can easily be done in any tier 9 heavy.
It’s entirely outclassed by the E-75. The latter can sidescrape better, has a better angle for the front plate, is much more mobile, doesn’t have an MG weakspot, mounts the same gun, takes engine hits better, has a better engine placement, and turns almost as fast as a medium.
You want to deal with a VK 45.02? Just bypass him. He won’t turn, and the engine’s in the middle. It is just not comparable in utility. If the VK 45.02 screws up sidescraping (which /will/ happen) the likely place he gets penetrated is in the center, which is the location of the gas tanks and engine.
Additionally, I call 2000 damage a mediocre game in the T54E1 and an decent game in the E-75.
Well it surely need a heavy buff but It would be better if they replace this tank with Maus prototype and turn the VK4502B into a tier 8 premium with historical armor and gun:
- 80mm hull armour all around
- Porscheturm with 100/80/80mm armor
- gun: 88mm L/71
-lower weight, faster movement speed
and of coure limited MM (T9 max) it could be an FCM 50t like premium tank.
I agree with you!
It’d be a shame to not have it anymore. Even though it’s not historical (I don’t care to be frank) I find this VK quite different from other tanks.
It’s fun to play with it…. Until all others shot your cupola.
Fine, remove the mg weakspot, that’s lovely. But buffing the frontal plate? Why? It’s perfectly adequate as it is. Sort out the fucking overmatched turret roof if you want to balance this lovely tank!
yea front plate was never a problem,
of all the parameters they could buff that should not be one of them, Buff the turret , the side armour, the engine / gearbox health points, mobility, ROF the list go’s on but frontal armour why ?
OK remove MG port weak spot, but they plan on doing that to most tanks any way if I remember rightly.
the MG weakspot is still somewhat there – just look at the slope – but now the VK 45.02 is that much closer to frontlining as well as the E-75 can. That’s a big benefit, but I’d personally like the E-75′s side armor.
Too little, too late. Just remove it. Funny though, for months they’ve claimed that VK is perfectly fine and doesn’t need any buffs, and now they suddenly realized it is not so? WG is not very perceptive.
They never said it balanced. They said months ago, that this is one of the tanks, that need a buff.
They’ve been slowly removing MG ports for years now from all tanks.
Additionally, this is a tank in a video game, not the ME 262. Who cares if it took time, buffing the tank before or now doesn’t make a serious difference. We’re not dependent on the VK 45.02 B to be good to have fun.
I like how WG says they want to keep armour values as historical as possible. Personally, I would prefer they buff its firepower like ROF which WG considers a balancing parameter.
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I can’t tell, but is the lower front plate being buffed as well?
“but I think the best course of action would be to replace this vehicle completely with something else.”
There’s not a single thing wrong with this tank and it prepares you for the Maus also having a rear-mounted turret.
People don’t know how to use a tank, so they whine about it needing buffs. It needs no buffs, but it’s still nice to see this special tank, which I already enjoy playing, getting a buff :)
I might buy it back. I loved it a lot and prefer it over the E75 because the modules don’t break as easy. The E-75 is currently technically better but gets set on fire too easily, ammo-racked too often to be *fun* to play.
Pointless buff IMO. The frontal armor isn’t this tank’s main problem, considering it has more than the E75. They should’ve given it more size armor and fixed the turret instead so it can actually do the one thing it’s decent at effectively.
Hmm.. not sure about that “Buff” – this is again a WGN Brainfart imho… this tank is meanwhile so far off the “planned historical” values like there’s no tomorrow.. this Thing would be suited to put it in T8 as a Premium and adjust it to the historical values, not pumping it up with to make it halfways competitive in T9 with fantasy armor-values, right?
But “if” this Tank would be the Sidescraper within in T9 – so why not buff the silly 100mm Sidearmor (even Löwe has 100mm) to 120mm like the E-75? Who the heck is shooting UFP’s anyways if there is a LFP below it you can rarely hide?!
But hey, better than nothin, right? Well, i don’t even know.. but so we take it and.. shhht ^^