A29 “Clan” – the Forgotten Cruiser

Author: Okinoshima (US server)

With the upcoming line of British tank destroyers on the way, we can all expect some well known and exciting vehicles to take into battle, notably the Challenger, a heavily modified Cromwell mounting the near-legendary QF 17-pounder tank gun; faster, nimbler and lower than the Sherman Firefly, the A30/Cruiser Mark VIII “Challenger”, while hampered by delays was introduced just in time to see service in the final months of the Second World War. That is not the whole story though, the A30 Challenger, designed by Birmingham Carriage & Wagon Company, was not Britain’s only response to the increasingly larger and more sophisticated armour being produced by Germany during the war, but one of several designs, that emerged in the early 1940s. In late November/early December 1941, the British General Staff issued specifications for an ‘Assault’ tank and allocated the General Staff number A29 and was handed over to Rolls-Royce to design while Birmingham Carriage & Wagon Company was allocated the General Staff number A30.


Rolls-Royce, although not as renown as Nuffield (Crusader) or Vauxhall (Churchill) was no stranger to tank design. Other than developing the Meteor engine, which powered many British tank designs, Rolls-Royce’s Clan Foundry in Belper also was involved in the redesign of the Cromwell Mark III tank. Clan Foundry used this experience to concieve the A29, which they had christened as ‘Clan’ after the foundry, where it was made.

The tank, developed by Rolls-Royce – although based on the Cromwell – was a behemoth, at 9’ 7” tall (2.92 m) and an estimated 43 long tons 5cwts (50.65 tons), of which 16 long tons was armour (the side by side sketch for the A29 and A30 are to two different scales). The front of both the hull and turret were 5” (127 mm) thick, and the side hull, including armour skirt, was 3½” (88.9 mm) thick. Like its rival design, the Challenger, it also was armed with a 76,2 mm QF 17-pounder gun, mounted in a turret similar to (but not exactly the same as) the one of Challenger (once again, it is worth noting the difference in scale of the two drawings). Although it is not mentioned in the written material, it is safe to assume that the Clan would invariably have an internal mantlet, adding to the frontal turret’s overall thickness like other contemporary British mantletess tanks.


The A29 Clan was to be propelled by a Rolls-Royce Meteor engine, up-rated to 700 bhp, which would give the Clan a top speed of 30 mph (48.3 kph) and power to weight ratio of 13.82 hp/tons. All this added armour and a heavier gun and turret of course came at cost, the weight was far higher than the existing Cromwell suspension could bear. Rolls-Royce’s solution was a new separate twin track suspension design, each track was 11” (279.4 mm) thick for a total of 22” wide tracks (558.8 mm), which would give the Clan excellent terrain passability. Inevitably, issues arose with the new, complicated suspension system, which caused delays in the programme, pushing the expected development finish all the way past February 1943. This proved to be the A29 Clan’s undoing and the project was cancelled in favour of the simpler A30 Challenger design. Rolls-Royce attempted to address these suspension issues with yet another design, the A31, but it too was cancelled.

A29 Clan

Weight: 50.65 tons
Height: 2.92 m
OA Length: 7.47 m
Width: 3.2 m
Contact Length: 5.58 m
Clearance: 0.5 m

Engine: Rolls-Royce Meteor V-12 700 bhp, petrol, 13.82 hp/tons
Top Speed: 48.3 kph
Tracks: 279.4 m x2 (558.8 mm)

Armament: 1 QF 17-pounder (171/239/38mm), 1 unspecified coaxial machine gun

Armour: 127/88.9/???

In game, the A29 Clan would prove to be an interesting and probably unusual tank. Given its 17-pounder armament, it really can’t be tiered anywhere below tier 6, so likely tier 6 or 7. As for its classification it is called an ‘Assault tank’ and a ‘Heavy Cromwell’ in different documents, this would fall under the category of heavy tank in my opinion, especially given its 50 ton weight. While 127 mm of armour is no slouch, it is also fairly flat but then again so is the the 100 mm hull of the Tiger I and the 120 mm vertical plate of the IS and KV-3. Probably the most interesting armour feature of the A29 Clan are the sides. While you’re definitely not going to get 558 mm of side armour from your tracks (they will likely get a nominal 40 mm of armour value like the similarly double tracked American T95) they will definitely ruin somebody firing HEAT’s day. The combination of a heavy armour skirt the large distance between it and the actual tank hull will pretty much nullify anybody trying to fire HEAT or HE directly into your tracks.

The 17-pounder is a gun we should all be familiar with by now. 171/239/38mm penetration and 150/150/190 alpha. Now a very high alpha but more than makes up for it with its good penetration and soft stats (accuracy, dispersion, rate of fire etc.).

Another excellent feature is the Clan’s speed, while the p/w ratio is on the lower side (13.82 hp/tons) a top speed of 48.3 kph is rather good for such a heavy tank and its double tracks should provide excellent terrain resistance in-game which would make it a very mobile heavy tank (also probably very fun to ram light tanks with!).

I hope you enjoyed the article, hopefully I piqued your interest with the A31 because that will liekly be subject of my next article!


The Rolls-Royce Meteor: Cromwell and other applications by Evans, McWilliams, Whitworth and Birch
WO 291/1439 British tank data

24 thoughts on “A29 “Clan” – the Forgotten Cruiser

  1. I hope they put it at t7 so it won’t suffer from “undertiered” soft stats like the poor ARL 44.

  2. We really need some good British premiums as Matilda BP and TOG suffer from their poor mobility.
    I really like the Excelsior as it’s a quite mobile heavy but the Excelsior’s gun is crap already at tier 5.

    This one would be a good tier 7 premium heavy (I doubt we will see a second British heavy line), even if it does not get reduced matchmaking.

    • It would be a faster BP with thinner armor (but less weakspots? *coughtracks*)

      It would work just fine at t7, I’ve allways wanted a mobile tank with the 17 pounder.

          • Archer would be limited fun as it’s based on the Valentine which means it will be much slower than the Crusader SP.

        • What part of “17 pounder” don’t you understand? The Comet can’t mount it and the cut down 77 mm gun isn’t the same.

  3. “Given its 17-pounder armament, it really can’t be tiered anywhere below tier 6″

    Just like the S35CA! :)

    Just to say that the armour is more of a factor in making it T6/7 than the gun itself.

  4. If anything, this tank could make a decent premium. Granted, the tier 6 and 5 slots are taken, so no idea where it would go. Perhaps it could somehow be brought in in an alternative heavy line; leading to what I have no idea. Regardless, this tank interests me.

    • Perhaps a Tier 7 premium tank? Slightly under-gunned, but mobile and well-armoured HT. It might play like a beefed-up Excelsior. I’d buy it. Of course, it’d need preferential MM.

      • Only problem is that’s 3 prem heavies for a nation whose heavies aren’t really played too much.

        • With the upcoming Tier X changes for the British HT and MT, perhaps there would be a surge in popularity of both lines. However, I personally would be happy just to collect it for the sake of variety, as well as credit-grinding opportunities (the AT-15A doesn’t have preferential MM).

  5. Great to see visual references of this thing finally surfacing!

    Something I haven’t seen being mentioned here yet is that it could be used as a heavy tank; this vehicle would fit very well at tier 6 in the Universal heavy tank line OhSlowPoke created a while back. If a similar degree of information displayed here was found for the A37, there would be no excuse for WG to implement a second British heavy tank line.

  6. Would like to see it as a bridge tank between the Black Prince and the Comet as a T7 HT.
    17lber could link it from Black Prince and RR Meteor could link it to the Comet.
    Give it made up stock tracks, WS No.19 Mk. II stock radio and a lower HP stock Meteor engine to grind through, but give it the turret and 17lber from stock.
    Would be like a slightly slower, tougher KV-13 IMO.

  7. I remember about a year ago when Okinoshima went hunting to find if the tank was called the Clam or not lol as it is called on the jedi site.

    But now we see it’s the clan.

    ofc others could have decided to change it later down the line in usage.