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70 thoughts on “T23E3 – upcoming tier 7 premium, more screenies”
I guess it’s really similar to comet?
Well… it’s pretty much a T20 without the 90 mm.
looks like it has some pershing-like mantlet
Turret should be same as 2nd turret on M4A3E8.
looks like a little bit ugly :D
Looks like T20 Prototype with a little modified turret and cannon from Easy Eight…
I guess it will be underpowered (UP).
Maybe (read: ‘I’m sure’) even more UP than T-44-85…
I like US tanks, but i dont think we really need another copy of this tank ingame
Do you know that before the Pershing, T23 is the tier8 American MT?
So?
It’s suck , that’s all.
Srill it has it fans,
i have seen several signature in the forum of T23 lovers.
So there is a market for it.
If it could make WG money, is not hard to model(aqlready done) im all for it!
More not so great Tier 7 premium tanks rouning around would give my Tiger something to shoot at, give WG more money and wouldn’t take too many manhours away from projects we really want to see implemented.
mfg eX
I really can’t wait to see this in game it’s a must have for me ^^
We can’t know at the moment.
Perhaps the gun would be buffed ala T-44-85 (Wild superammo appeared! It’s super effective!) or that It earns so much cred it still earn money firing all gold.
Finally the T23 is back…. took them quite long actually… I miss it since Beta :/
I hope it has the same mobility as it had back then
doubtful, premium tanks use their historical loadout. Expect it to have the 520 bhp engine, not the 704 bhp one.
They can give it meglev suspension so it behaves like a hovertank :D
But is it any good? No specs yet?
in beta its often got ammo racked :P
Hit in the front fenders -> ammorack
Well hellooooooo, T-44 was Ammo-rack bitch too and now nobody even remembers this.
It’s not going to be the M23 that everyone remembers……it will be a bastardized preemie that lacks mobility, firepower and armor.
People who were whining about the pen on the T-44-85, even with limited MM: check this shit out.
This gun could only be viable if MM is limited to tier 7 only.
Just a question…What is that rack thing on the turret for in real life?
Climb faster? fuel drums, boxes, stuffs…
For catching balls in playground.
Seriously, I have no idea..
Called a bustle IIRC, cent 7/1 and later ‘murican tanks have it as well. Used to carry additional/non mission specific equipment such as the tanker’s duffelbags, camo nets and other crap that isn’t vital to the machine itself.
^ This.
Yeah, T23 will be finally back <3
What was special on this tank?
Nothing, just the usual hipster thing (I liked it before it was kool), this tank was a garbage.
It was not special, but i like this tank much more than Pershing who replaced it..
Wrong, T23 was the original agility king of the game, combined with good depression it was the best harasser at tier 8. It had unparalleled acceleration, turn and climb, combined with neutral steer, on tiers 7 and 8 only comet comes close. This tank was cromwell of tier 8.
However, it does not mean that this tank will be as good premium tier 7 as it was regular tier 8. But it certainly DIDN’T suck, it only had really high skill floor (but also really high skill celing), meaning noobs sucked bad in this, pros preformed amazing.
Loool :D
Cool story bro :D
It was one of the few tanks which could keep up with the OP T-54 back then (in term of mobility)
the basket is back
ffs just give us a damn US TD!!!!
the half of all US TDs are faked to fill the branches. that means they are stumbling to find one for prem.
I know you are trolling, but srsly only two tanks are real fakes. T28 proto and E4.
And T28, and T25/2.
well T28 is PARTIALLY fake. And yeah, I forgot T25. But both are just edited real tanks, like the T28 never had the front plate thing, and T25 never had the M36 turret (and was called T23 IIRC), but the M36 turret wiould fit, so it was at least plausible. besides, there is this picture http://www.vqwarbirds.com/vq/images/tanks/NAM36KIT/nam361kit.jpg
and no, it ain’t photoshopped http://www.fototime.com/0B89CDB8C0EC62A/orig.jpg
why isn’t this a tank? Perfectly plausible yet I don’t see a designation.
It is in game already, just with it’s primary hull. It’s the M36 Jackson. Some had the hull you see in game, some had the Sherman hull. But they were the “same” TD.
M36 – GMC M10 hull (M4A3 chassis). 1,298 produced/converted
M36B1 – Medium Tank M4A3 hull and chassis. 187 produced/converted. – This is the one pictured in the links you posted.
M36B2 – GMC M10A1 hull (M4A2 chassis). 287 produced/converted)
Thank you for that piece of insight!
just another POS premium tank.. if people actually think this is going to be a great tank, your delusional
Its the 90mm Gun M3, which is the top gun for the T20, but this T23′s gun design follows the stock version of T25/2′s because of no muzzle break.(my guess) Plus it looks to big to be a 76mm.
Anyway I bet we’ll all see the stats for it very soon. I really do hope it has the same maneuverability as it was before. Though I doubt that. I am just glad they are bringing it back.
Also first post for this site. I have always read the articles I just never posted before.
T-23 never had 90mm gun, it was equipped with 76mm M1A1.
Live with it.
:-)
I shall, not the first time I wished for something and WG dashes my wish.
I don’t think I’m alone when I say that I’d MUCH MORE prefer a Premium US TD to this (or anything else that’s not a Premium US TD)
Agree. Don’t understand, how WG haven’t figured it out, that many many and many more players would buy a T8 US Prem TD (meaning they would bring loads of $$ to them) because both of those TD lines are popular amongst players.. :(
give an example of tank which can be prem. US TD
T88E1 = M18 Hellcat with 105mm howitzer.
It would probably suck but it’s a candidate.
Ever thought that they are nerfing higher tier TDs soon, so why release something that will compound the problem? (Much TD
much camping
bad meta
wow.)
90mm GMC T78. Chaffee/M36 hybrid.
What’s with the gap between the 1st and 2nd roadwheel (like T55) but only on the right side, not the left side?
I don’t remember my T20 or T21 having this.
Is it a very unique feature to not have same track/suspension on both sides of a tank.
haha check comment below. I’m asking the same thing here
This is way the torsion bars were set for the T23, the first wheel had a two part suspension unit arm while the rest were a standard one part arm. This was done so that the driver and bow gunner’s escape haches found between the first and second road wheels so there was space for them. The M26/46/47 and T29/30/32/34 did have this gap but not as noticeable as the T23′s.
But why only on one side?
torsion bars are as long as the hull is wide, so only one arm per two bars, this is why the wheel are off set from one side. if you look closely to the other side were there is no gap between road wheel 1 and 2, the gap between the last road wheel and the drive sprocket is wider then its on the other side.
here is a link to a detailed drawing of the M46E1, even thought this isn’t the T23E2, they share the same suspension system(outside some minor changes). http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/fullmetalfoxp/M46E1_w_zpsf66f6055.jpg
Is it just me or is the placement of the roadwheels asymmetrical? On the right side (1st picture) the 1st and 2nd roadwheel have a gap in between them, like the Pershing. on the left side (2nd picture) the roadwheels seem to be arranged equally.
will this be the first tank with asymmetrical suspension? If yes, I’ll friggin buy it.
JTiger 8.8 has the same problem…but not as obvious as it is here…donno about the 12.8 one, but the 8.8 really does…
another shitty tier 7 med….
C’mon WG…. offer up a gold one too like the China server did with the Type59… give the NA server a “whale’s” tank (big spender’s version like you see in Las Vegas)
That tank looks so interesting…… it looks like a T20 with a M4 Easy 8 turret with a pershing manlet. I really want to get my hands on this…. I’ll save my money to get a karma koin card to get either this or the T-44-85
Lets hope its has premium matchmaking…
T23′s turret was used on later production M4s (post-1944), so that’s why you’re seeing the similarity.
Mantlet isn’t really Pershing-ish. It’s flat and it’s only 88.9mm thick. The turret face behind it is 76mm thick. It’s okay protection, but not great.
The best parts about it are the fact that it can neutral steer, it can go 56kph, and it has an okay power/weight ratio.
As long as they don’t bog it down with a ridiculously bad terrain resistance stat, it should be a decent tank. I’ll buy one.
I’ll buy one just for the sake of it. I already have panther/M10 and I’m planning on getting the T-44-85 too. Tier 7 is where it’s at for me, and as long as the vehicles have limited MM I’m in.
is it going to be medium or scout? pref mm or not? any clue?
No premium tank below tier 8 is worth the money – except maybe the E-25, if you drive it for fun in a platoon and not for money making.
Excelsior’s totally worth 1500 gold..
This really ISN’T the droid I was looking for.
It resembled this one superficially, but had a 90mm and was on the tech tree. I didn’t need to pay for SerB’s coach > 1st class airline ticket upgrade to get one last time.
I guess it’s really similar to comet?
Well… it’s pretty much a T20 without the 90 mm.
looks like it has some pershing-like mantlet
Turret should be same as 2nd turret on M4A3E8.
looks like a little bit ugly :D
Looks like T20 Prototype with a little modified turret and cannon from Easy Eight…
I guess it will be underpowered (UP).
Maybe (read: ‘I’m sure’) even more UP than T-44-85…
I like US tanks, but i dont think we really need another copy of this tank ingame
Do you know that before the Pershing, T23 is the tier8 American MT?
So?
It’s suck , that’s all.
Srill it has it fans,
i have seen several signature in the forum of T23 lovers.
So there is a market for it.
If it could make WG money, is not hard to model(aqlready done) im all for it!
More not so great Tier 7 premium tanks rouning around would give my Tiger something to shoot at, give WG more money and wouldn’t take too many manhours away from projects we really want to see implemented.
mfg eX
I really can’t wait to see this in game it’s a must have for me ^^
We can’t know at the moment.
Perhaps the gun would be buffed ala T-44-85 (Wild superammo appeared! It’s super effective!) or that It earns so much cred it still earn money firing all gold.
Finally the T23 is back…. took them quite long actually… I miss it since Beta :/
I hope it has the same mobility as it had back then
doubtful, premium tanks use their historical loadout. Expect it to have the 520 bhp engine, not the 704 bhp one.
They can give it meglev suspension so it behaves like a hovertank :D
But is it any good? No specs yet?
in beta its often got ammo racked :P
Hit in the front fenders -> ammorack
Well hellooooooo, T-44 was Ammo-rack bitch too and now nobody even remembers this.
It’s not going to be the M23 that everyone remembers……it will be a bastardized preemie that lacks mobility, firepower and armor.
People who were whining about the pen on the T-44-85, even with limited MM: check this shit out.
This gun could only be viable if MM is limited to tier 7 only.
Just a question…What is that rack thing on the turret for in real life?
Climb faster? fuel drums, boxes, stuffs…
For catching balls in playground.
Seriously, I have no idea..
Called a bustle IIRC, cent 7/1 and later ‘murican tanks have it as well. Used to carry additional/non mission specific equipment such as the tanker’s duffelbags, camo nets and other crap that isn’t vital to the machine itself.
^ This.
Yeah, T23 will be finally back <3
What was special on this tank?
Nothing, just the usual hipster thing (I liked it before it was kool), this tank was a garbage.
It was not special, but i like this tank much more than Pershing who replaced it..
Wrong, T23 was the original agility king of the game, combined with good depression it was the best harasser at tier 8. It had unparalleled acceleration, turn and climb, combined with neutral steer, on tiers 7 and 8 only comet comes close. This tank was cromwell of tier 8.
However, it does not mean that this tank will be as good premium tier 7 as it was regular tier 8. But it certainly DIDN’T suck, it only had really high skill floor (but also really high skill celing), meaning noobs sucked bad in this, pros preformed amazing.
Loool :D
Cool story bro :D
It was one of the few tanks which could keep up with the OP T-54 back then (in term of mobility)
the basket is back
ffs just give us a damn US TD!!!!
the half of all US TDs are faked to fill the branches. that means they are stumbling to find one for prem.
I know you are trolling, but srsly only two tanks are real fakes. T28 proto and E4.
And T28, and T25/2.
well T28 is PARTIALLY fake. And yeah, I forgot T25. But both are just edited real tanks, like the T28 never had the front plate thing, and T25 never had the M36 turret (and was called T23 IIRC), but the M36 turret wiould fit, so it was at least plausible. besides, there is this picture
http://www.vqwarbirds.com/vq/images/tanks/NAM36KIT/nam361kit.jpg
and no, it ain’t photoshopped
http://www.fototime.com/0B89CDB8C0EC62A/orig.jpg
why isn’t this a tank? Perfectly plausible yet I don’t see a designation.
It is in game already, just with it’s primary hull. It’s the M36 Jackson. Some had the hull you see in game, some had the Sherman hull. But they were the “same” TD.
M36 – GMC M10 hull (M4A3 chassis). 1,298 produced/converted
M36B1 – Medium Tank M4A3 hull and chassis. 187 produced/converted. – This is the one pictured in the links you posted.
M36B2 – GMC M10A1 hull (M4A2 chassis). 287 produced/converted)
Thank you for that piece of insight!
just another POS premium tank.. if people actually think this is going to be a great tank, your delusional
Its the 90mm Gun M3, which is the top gun for the T20, but this T23′s gun design follows the stock version of T25/2′s because of no muzzle break.(my guess) Plus it looks to big to be a 76mm.
Anyway I bet we’ll all see the stats for it very soon. I really do hope it has the same maneuverability as it was before. Though I doubt that. I am just glad they are bringing it back.
Also first post for this site. I have always read the articles I just never posted before.
T-23 never had 90mm gun, it was equipped with 76mm M1A1.
Live with it.
:-)
I shall, not the first time I wished for something and WG dashes my wish.
I don’t think I’m alone when I say that I’d MUCH MORE prefer a Premium US TD to this (or anything else that’s not a Premium US TD)
Agree. Don’t understand, how WG haven’t figured it out, that many many and many more players would buy a T8 US Prem TD (meaning they would bring loads of $$ to them) because both of those TD lines are popular amongst players.. :(
give an example of tank which can be prem. US TD
T88E1 = M18 Hellcat with 105mm howitzer.
It would probably suck but it’s a candidate.
Ever thought that they are nerfing higher tier TDs soon, so why release something that will compound the problem? (Much TD
much camping
bad meta
wow.)
90mm GMC T78. Chaffee/M36 hybrid.
What’s with the gap between the 1st and 2nd roadwheel (like T55) but only on the right side, not the left side?
I don’t remember my T20 or T21 having this.
Is it a very unique feature to not have same track/suspension on both sides of a tank.
haha check comment below. I’m asking the same thing here
This is way the torsion bars were set for the T23, the first wheel had a two part suspension unit arm while the rest were a standard one part arm. This was done so that the driver and bow gunner’s escape haches found between the first and second road wheels so there was space for them. The M26/46/47 and T29/30/32/34 did have this gap but not as noticeable as the T23′s.
But why only on one side?
torsion bars are as long as the hull is wide, so only one arm per two bars, this is why the wheel are off set from one side. if you look closely to the other side were there is no gap between road wheel 1 and 2, the gap between the last road wheel and the drive sprocket is wider then its on the other side.
here is a link to a detailed drawing of the M46E1, even thought this isn’t the T23E2, they share the same suspension system(outside some minor changes).
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m100/fullmetalfoxp/M46E1_w_zpsf66f6055.jpg
Is it just me or is the placement of the roadwheels asymmetrical? On the right side (1st picture) the 1st and 2nd roadwheel have a gap in between them, like the Pershing. on the left side (2nd picture) the roadwheels seem to be arranged equally.
will this be the first tank with asymmetrical suspension? If yes, I’ll friggin buy it.
JTiger 8.8 has the same problem…but not as obvious as it is here…donno about the 12.8 one, but the 8.8 really does…
another shitty tier 7 med….
C’mon WG…. offer up a gold one too like the China server did with the Type59… give the NA server a “whale’s” tank (big spender’s version like you see in Las Vegas)
That tank looks so interesting…… it looks like a T20 with a M4 Easy 8 turret with a pershing manlet. I really want to get my hands on this…. I’ll save my money to get a karma koin card to get either this or the T-44-85
Lets hope its has premium matchmaking…
T23′s turret was used on later production M4s (post-1944), so that’s why you’re seeing the similarity.
Mantlet isn’t really Pershing-ish. It’s flat and it’s only 88.9mm thick. The turret face behind it is 76mm thick. It’s okay protection, but not great.
The best parts about it are the fact that it can neutral steer, it can go 56kph, and it has an okay power/weight ratio.
As long as they don’t bog it down with a ridiculously bad terrain resistance stat, it should be a decent tank. I’ll buy one.
I’ll buy one just for the sake of it. I already have panther/M10 and I’m planning on getting the T-44-85 too. Tier 7 is where it’s at for me, and as long as the vehicles have limited MM I’m in.
is it going to be medium or scout? pref mm or not? any clue?
No premium tank below tier 8 is worth the money – except maybe the E-25, if you drive it for fun in a platoon and not for money making.
Excelsior’s totally worth 1500 gold..
This really ISN’T the droid I was looking for.
It resembled this one superficially, but had a 90mm and was on the tech tree. I didn’t need to pay for SerB’s coach > 1st class airline ticket upgrade to get one last time.