Thought Chaffee would get limited MM.
…
Maybe when lights will get rebalanced. Some day.
No, the Chaffee was the only one whose MM wouldn’t be changed. All the other scouts got better MM.
They said explicitely that chaffee would not get limited MM
Chaffee will get limited MM when the new US lights are introduced (and it loses the top turret).
Actually Chaffee will get rebalanced when the new US LT are introduced. It will be completely redone. Then it will get regular T5 scout MM. Right now the Chaffee is basically a T6 tank (stats and MM wise, only T5 thing is that it says T5)
I still dont see how its a T6. It has T5 HP, it was slowest of all the T5 scouts and no where near the T50-2. It had no where near as good as gun as Vk2801.
Yes its good overall but dies instantly if not used right. All it has is its highish Pen for its tier.
chaffee is too op for it’s tier to get limited mm!
is that MM for T5 scouts aplied to chaffe??? that would be lovely :)
So you can play a T6 as top tank vs T5s? It’ll get normal scout mm when its a normal scout.
It was the worst T5 scout by far and nothing changed except they nerfed the Vk2801 and T50-2.
Chaffee is at best T5.5 but not a true T6 scout at all. We just dont have any good examples of T6 scouts now.
Put a Chaffee with Hellcats+KV1s and its Great but not to OP to play in them.
I agree it shouldnt see T5 matches but then it needs to see T8-9 matches the most.
To bad the MM couldn`t give odds to land in certain matches more….Chaffee would be perfect with T6-11 but with only like 10% chance of the T11 and 50% chance at T8
Has the MM for Light VIC and Combat Car changed?
No, sir.
No, they always could get into tier 2 battles only.
obj 252? what is that?
IS-6
ok thanks :P, i was hoping a new prem tank since we are still waiting for the tier 7 med.
Same.
such disappoint
much sad
very not premium
Phew. My heart skipped a beat there for a second. Thought they had removed PMM frm it.
Dat Tier 11 :)
Battle tier.
Battle tier X is t8-10 tanks, battle tier XI is t9-10 tanks, battle tier XII was only t10 tanks
Great, now most of tier 5 medium tank will have no more scout tanks before them.
Pz IV, now T-34… might want to grind T-34 after this.
The T-80 never had Scout matchmaking. However, this change just made me contemplate buying back the A20 Light Tank.
I talking about T-50 or A20.
And A20 have some of its modules carried over to T-34 if i remember correctly so yeah, A-20 get regular MM is good news.
Tier 11? There is no tier 11.
Yes, there is. Battle-tier XI.
There used to be battle tier 12. Tier 8 scouts and tier 10 tanks only.
SU-76I :(((
WG pls, why can’t they sell this instead of that stoopid SU-85I
But the SU-85I is the SU-76I with an 85mm gun.
My guess is they don’t want to release another low tier premium or it’s a tier 3 gift tank like the LTP and M3 Lend Lease
SU-76I, already available on WoT CN server, is considered a tank designed specifically for sealclubbing.
But I want MT-25 of 9.1 still play in tier 10 :((
Missing from the MM table are two other premiums:
Tier 03 German Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f)
Tier 05 German T-25
I guess they don’t matter??
They dont have special MM.
I tried the T-44/85 on the Test Server back in the day but don’t remember the T-44/122 ever showing it’s face..? Is that a super-tester gift or something annoying like that?
Yes, its a gift for supertesters.
Are we sure the mechanics over there are the same as in EU?
Type 59 gets tier X tanks in EU, unless battle tier 9 includes tier X tanks?
Also missing from list premium Chinese Type 64 light tank, premium UK Tetrach?
Dont platoon with tier 9 tanks.
Actually, he shouldn’t platoon with normal T8, as they can also get to battle tier 10.
So either platoon with T8 having reduced MM (like SPershing, IS-6, 112, T-34-3) or normal T7 tanks.
I keep hoping AMX 40 will be restricted to t 4 and 5 only, but no. Yet again it has to fight T6 heavies and all. Playing this tank is a joke, 18 km/h and a T4 top gun…. I refuse to buy exp for the ELC… so it’s a hell of a grind with a massive win% drop…
I found the AMX40 really fun and I was playing it when you faced T8s. Just play it for fun, if you know going into the match that you will be ineffectual why not make a game of it and have fun? Just do something that amuses you and if works out helps the team. I also did this with the B1 also (Unstoppable vs T4, useless vs T5), it was some of the funnest hours I’ve had playing WoT.
Agreed, it’s a shit tank in current meta and could do with reduced MM.
Whats happend with 3T France TD FCM36pak40 ? i dont see him on the list of premium tanks.
It has normal MM
one thing I never understood, why don’t lights get the opportunity to play in the same tier they are? basically, why doesn’t a tier 5 light tank have a MM spread of 5-8?
Chaffee and ELC would own most of the time against the other tier 5 tanks. I mean Chaffee and ELC can solo any T5 tank easily with their camo and speed and they have OP guns for T5 tanks. Scouts are way too dangerous in their own tier.
Maybe WG should stretching the LTs to tier 10 and give them +2/-2MM – the same way with artys in 8.6
Would be much easyer platooning with an LT
ELC AMX could be tier 6 etc
Seems like a lot of work for little gain. It would mean LT’s are more generic and less distinctive, as a whole class.
Also, i don’t even want to imagine the clusterfook (im)balance problems, that would surely arise, untill they could figure things out.
Another thing – not sure if they have enough tanks to fill in necessary gaps. Think of German LT line, how long they struggled to add T8.
Or the soviet LT fiasco, as they still are unable to “find” a good T7 candidate, so there will already be a gap between MT-25 and the incoming T8 LT.
They only struggle with getting a tier 8 German light tank because the German government refuses to share info on the best possible candidate, the RU 251, for “security reasons” (same story with the Leopard Prototype B).
Thank you WG for simplifying light tank MM. Now I can bring a light tank one tier lower than my buddies normal MM tank and not bring them into too powerful tiers.
Yeah, this will easy up platooning with normal tanks. Lots of ppl see LTs as underperforming and are not happy, if you take your LT into the game.
Thanks for the table.
Found one mistake, it’s just the colors: 112 is a heavy, not a med
It’s WG’s own table
SU-76I is this the SU-76 of the SU-26 ?
No, it’s the SU-85I with a 76 mm gun (which is itself a TD built on captured Panzer III chassis). Basically, a Russian StuG III.
OMG Icant wait for T44-85 at Prem 7. SU85 was a huge let down for me.
Also when T8 Lights come OMG they will be fun.
I just love how Chaffee is the only premium tank with MM higher than usual. It’s not enough to encounter T18′s and even less pennable H35′s and AMX 38′s on it’s own tier, it must also suffer in tier 4 where it can’t pen half of the tanks.
Scouting with viewrange 260, dug-up maps and without the stats it had before getting nerfed is almost pointless too.
Mhm, not only is chaffee shit now but it’s also a premium tank.
You’re full of bs
Whatever you smoking when typing this, you should stopped using it.
…Or maybe you refer to T2 Light Tank, not a Chaffee.
Thought Chaffee would get limited MM.
…
Maybe when lights will get rebalanced. Some day.
No, the Chaffee was the only one whose MM wouldn’t be changed. All the other scouts got better MM.
They said explicitely that chaffee would not get limited MM
Chaffee will get limited MM when the new US lights are introduced (and it loses the top turret).
Actually Chaffee will get rebalanced when the new US LT are introduced. It will be completely redone. Then it will get regular T5 scout MM. Right now the Chaffee is basically a T6 tank (stats and MM wise, only T5 thing is that it says T5)
I still dont see how its a T6. It has T5 HP, it was slowest of all the T5 scouts and no where near the T50-2. It had no where near as good as gun as Vk2801.
Yes its good overall but dies instantly if not used right. All it has is its highish Pen for its tier.
chaffee is too op for it’s tier to get limited mm!
is that MM for T5 scouts aplied to chaffe??? that would be lovely :)
So you can play a T6 as top tank vs T5s? It’ll get normal scout mm when its a normal scout.
It was the worst T5 scout by far and nothing changed except they nerfed the Vk2801 and T50-2.
Chaffee is at best T5.5 but not a true T6 scout at all. We just dont have any good examples of T6 scouts now.
Put a Chaffee with Hellcats+KV1s and its Great but not to OP to play in them.
I agree it shouldnt see T5 matches but then it needs to see T8-9 matches the most.
To bad the MM couldn`t give odds to land in certain matches more….Chaffee would be perfect with T6-11 but with only like 10% chance of the T11 and 50% chance at T8
Has the MM for Light VIC and Combat Car changed?
No, sir.
No, they always could get into tier 2 battles only.
obj 252? what is that?
IS-6
ok thanks :P, i was hoping a new prem tank since we are still waiting for the tier 7 med.
Same.
such disappoint
much sad
very not premium
Phew. My heart skipped a beat there for a second. Thought they had removed PMM frm it.
Dat Tier 11 :)
Battle tier.
Battle tier X is t8-10 tanks, battle tier XI is t9-10 tanks, battle tier XII was only t10 tanks
Great, now most of tier 5 medium tank will have no more scout tanks before them.
Pz IV, now T-34… might want to grind T-34 after this.
The T-80 never had Scout matchmaking. However, this change just made me contemplate buying back the A20 Light Tank.
I talking about T-50 or A20.
And A20 have some of its modules carried over to T-34 if i remember correctly so yeah, A-20 get regular MM is good news.
Tier 11? There is no tier 11.
Yes, there is. Battle-tier XI.
There used to be battle tier 12. Tier 8 scouts and tier 10 tanks only.
SU-76I :(((
WG pls, why can’t they sell this instead of that stoopid SU-85I
But the SU-85I is the SU-76I with an 85mm gun.
My guess is they don’t want to release another low tier premium or it’s a tier 3 gift tank like the LTP and M3 Lend Lease
SU-76I, already available on WoT CN server, is considered a tank designed specifically for sealclubbing.
But I want MT-25 of 9.1 still play in tier 10 :((
Missing from the MM table are two other premiums:
Tier 03 German Pz.Kpfw. S35 739 (f)
Tier 05 German T-25
I guess they don’t matter??
They dont have special MM.
I tried the T-44/85 on the Test Server back in the day but don’t remember the T-44/122 ever showing it’s face..? Is that a super-tester gift or something annoying like that?
Yes, its a gift for supertesters.
Are we sure the mechanics over there are the same as in EU?
Type 59 gets tier X tanks in EU, unless battle tier 9 includes tier X tanks?
Also missing from list premium Chinese Type 64 light tank, premium UK Tetrach?
Dont platoon with tier 9 tanks.
Actually, he shouldn’t platoon with normal T8, as they can also get to battle tier 10.
So either platoon with T8 having reduced MM (like SPershing, IS-6, 112, T-34-3) or normal T7 tanks.
I keep hoping AMX 40 will be restricted to t 4 and 5 only, but no. Yet again it has to fight T6 heavies and all. Playing this tank is a joke, 18 km/h and a T4 top gun…. I refuse to buy exp for the ELC… so it’s a hell of a grind with a massive win% drop…
I found the AMX40 really fun and I was playing it when you faced T8s. Just play it for fun, if you know going into the match that you will be ineffectual why not make a game of it and have fun? Just do something that amuses you and if works out helps the team. I also did this with the B1 also (Unstoppable vs T4, useless vs T5), it was some of the funnest hours I’ve had playing WoT.
Agreed, it’s a shit tank in current meta and could do with reduced MM.
Whats happend with 3T France TD FCM36pak40 ? i dont see him on the list of premium tanks.
It has normal MM
one thing I never understood, why don’t lights get the opportunity to play in the same tier they are? basically, why doesn’t a tier 5 light tank have a MM spread of 5-8?
Chaffee and ELC would own most of the time against the other tier 5 tanks. I mean Chaffee and ELC can solo any T5 tank easily with their camo and speed and they have OP guns for T5 tanks. Scouts are way too dangerous in their own tier.
Maybe WG should stretching the LTs to tier 10 and give them +2/-2MM – the same way with artys in 8.6
Would be much easyer platooning with an LT
ELC AMX could be tier 6 etc
Seems like a lot of work for little gain. It would mean LT’s are more generic and less distinctive, as a whole class.
Also, i don’t even want to imagine the clusterfook (im)balance problems, that would surely arise, untill they could figure things out.
Another thing – not sure if they have enough tanks to fill in necessary gaps. Think of German LT line, how long they struggled to add T8.
Or the soviet LT fiasco, as they still are unable to “find” a good T7 candidate, so there will already be a gap between MT-25 and the incoming T8 LT.
They only struggle with getting a tier 8 German light tank because the German government refuses to share info on the best possible candidate, the RU 251, for “security reasons” (same story with the Leopard Prototype B).
Thank you WG for simplifying light tank MM. Now I can bring a light tank one tier lower than my buddies normal MM tank and not bring them into too powerful tiers.
Yeah, this will easy up platooning with normal tanks. Lots of ppl see LTs as underperforming and are not happy, if you take your LT into the game.
Thanks for the table.
Found one mistake, it’s just the colors: 112 is a heavy, not a med
It’s WG’s own table
SU-76I is this the SU-76 of the SU-26 ?
No, it’s the SU-85I with a 76 mm gun (which is itself a TD built on captured Panzer III chassis). Basically, a Russian StuG III.
OMG Icant wait for T44-85 at Prem 7. SU85 was a huge let down for me.
Also when T8 Lights come OMG they will be fun.
I just love how Chaffee is the only premium tank with MM higher than usual. It’s not enough to encounter T18′s and even less pennable H35′s and AMX 38′s on it’s own tier, it must also suffer in tier 4 where it can’t pen half of the tanks.
Scouting with viewrange 260, dug-up maps and without the stats it had before getting nerfed is almost pointless too.
Mhm, not only is chaffee shit now but it’s also a premium tank.
You’re full of bs
Whatever you smoking when typing this, you should stopped using it.
…Or maybe you refer to T2 Light Tank, not a Chaffee.
Yes, I meant T2LT