WG EU Doesn’t Ban Warpack – Part Deux

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Hello everyone,

this is the followup of the previous post – if you want to know the background and what Warpack is, read that post first.

Up to speed?

Okay, now an interesting thing happened. The owner of the cheater account, Milkm4n_PL, wrote me about his stance on the entire thing. Basically, as we suspected, Milkm4n is a test account to try out various cheats and other stuff. It’s not a new account (created on 23.11.2013) and the fact it wasn’t banned yet should tell you plenty by itself.

What he did himself was – he himself wrote a ticket (!) to EU support, asking them about their stance on Warpack. And here’s what the support replied to him:

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“We do not penalize a specific mod indeed.”

Well, that’s very clear. And Milkm4n_PL was not banned, even though he practically reported himself, that should tell you plenty as well. Neither Antoine “Mod Intruder” Dodson (seriously, I really hope this is some fake name :D) nor WG EU care about cheating apparently. It proves also two more things:

- there is no automated anti-cheat detection (if there was, Milkm4n_PL would be banned ten times over)
- without that player’s replay, support CANNOT detect presence of cheats (my theory here is that replays have a list of mods the author of the replay is using embedded in them)

So – knock yourselves out cheating, I guess. Good job, WG EU – I wonder what Minsk thinks of this.

145 thoughts on “WG EU Doesn’t Ban Warpack – Part Deux”

  1. *slow claps*

    Well done WG EU… if you’re wondering why SS seemingly has a vendetta against you… he doesn’t… you’re just THAT bad… man…

    Speaking of which, anyone wanna ask WG ASIA the same thing?

    EDIT:”Anything that gives an unfair advantage..” an aimbot doesn’t give an unfair advantage? I can kinda see where the other parts of it might not, but an aimbot in Warpack definitely does… How are you arguing that it doesn’t?

    • Dude, we get neglected on the most simple of things (other servers get all sorts of specials while all we get are 1.25x crew xp), you really think something like this, they’ll care?

    • “I don’t like cheats, so to decrease their popularity i turn even more attention to the fact WG EU does nothing about it. herp derp.” ~SS paraphrased. Fuck logic!

      • Let’s just silently ignore the fact WG EU needs to change? Nope. SS is doing what any good journalist would do: expose rotten stuff.

    • WG Asia actively encourage Warpack usage. The top clan openly uses and WG Asia thinks it is fine. So the word from Minsk must be that any mod is fine. No matter what it does. Look at Battle assistant for example.

      • I had to log in. I had to log in because I can’t stop laughing. XD It was the first thing I noticed in the reply, and then the comment sealed the deal. I’m crying X’D damn

        • Same thing. I even thought that this is some sort of fake but then I read the whole reply and well, looks legit

      • You don’t need to come and confess. Ain’t looking for you, we won’t FIIIIIND you, we won’t find you so you can run warpack now warpack now warpack now homeboy home home home boy

      • well obviously we have a cheater in WG EU. he’s climbing in your randoms, snatching your damage up trying to pad stats. so you need to hide yo tanks, hide yo stats and hide yo golds, because WG EU ain’t bannin’ everybody out there.

        you done left your name. we gotch ya video. you left your evidence and all. you are so dumb. you are really dumb. fo real

  4. Yeah… I really wonder who is at fault here.
    WG who is stupid and incapable of dealing with mods or a super huge european blog that constantly link’s to one of the worst cheat mods collecting sites on the net… really, makes me wonder. *rolls eyes*

    (No, srsly SS, you are just as guilty as WG in this whole situation. Keep on linking to plazmakekses site and promoting that nice and easy collection of cheats, well appreciated by the unwashed masses I bet.)

    • Yes? Let’s use a real life example then – if your town has a crime problem, does it get solved by censoring any news about incompetent police not doing anything so more people don’t go and try it, since they won’t get punished anyway?

      I don’t think so.

      • Well, making the addresses of the black market dealers public doesn’t help either, you see ;)

        Posting about the offenses is fine, but mentioning the mod names and linking their sites is counter-productive.

        • oh come on nya chan, black market dealers dont come up in google search, wot cheats are

          the problem i have with full situation is that most mods give an advantage but what you will call unfair advantage?

          many advantageous mods were incorporated into wot (whole Over Target Markers or tank names on minimap, reload timer) – they were giving huge advantage when wot didn’t offered those options.
          The same goes with battle assistant arty view.

          So we have to daw line somewhere and everyone will choose a different border, that’s why wg eu stance is useless.
          Of course making a list will just make people look for a way to have the same advantage with different mods and we reach the shady are of “it\s the same – no it’s not”

          When people start using cheats in competitive play (like CW) will soon realise that they have to use them too – and if 1 person from a clan has cheats, most of them will get them too.

          As long as it is not forbidden and used by my opponents I would have to be idiot not to use them if they do give an advantage.

    • Anyone who wants to cheat will just ‘google’ WoT Cheats and find a whole plethora of them.

      Seeing the cheats mentioned here will not increase the numbers nor make it easier to find for those who had decided to.

      Making it more public may get WG to actually do something about it – ban certain mods universally and not by server – one set of rules covering the whole game not local interpretations. Even a method of detecting banned mods in the form of a checker updated periodically that checks the game files installed on your hard drive. Illegal mod detected game will not connect.

        • Awareness is key. The more public it gets, the more people will know about it, the bigger the chance that the public pressure will lead to actions.

          • You can raise awareness without linking to the site and going: “Guys, this site has mods you can use to get yourself banned, but don’t get them *wink wink WG EU does nothing if you do*”

        • How is this making anything easier? For whom? What kind of person are you imagining here that benefits? They would have to, at the same time:
          - want to cheat
          - be stupid enough not to figure out that googling “world of tank cheats” will get them there almost instantly
          - instead they’d have to rely on stumbling upon specifics on a blog that’s definitely NOT a blog for cheating
          - yet be smart enough to follow through from there and to actually install and use these cheats

          Honestly, I don’t see the cross-section of all of these being particularily large.

    • You’re a moron. I heard of Warpack and other cheats (like botting software) long before I started reading FTR regularly, which is about two years ago.

      • Good for you! But I bet a few thousand ppl that visit this blog have never heard of it before and found it very convenient to have so many links and guides on how to cheat… and since they know from the same source that WG can’t and won’t do anything about it… why the fuck not cheat like a bitch! :D

        • I guess 95% of all FTR readers are pretty active in WoT forums and well aware of the whole mod issue.
          So inho nothing new here because casual tomato never visits forums or blogs because they “plei tenkz for fun”.

          • “plei tenkz for fun”

            I know it’s a sort of hyperbole what you wrote, but I’m not a tomato (maybe I am even worse, a green, unriped tomato), I even read this blog but I still, after four years of tanking, play for fun. What else should I play for? For ethernal glory? For military ranks?

            Everyone plays for fun, that’s what games are for. But some people simply take the fun too seriously.

            • “Play for fun” when spoken out loud is just an euphemism for “play like a retard and never plan on getting better” that some people think fools anyone. Of course people play for fun, but when this is brought out as an excuse, well…

              I think this comic explains the “play for fun” people better than I could: http://oi61.tinypic.com/2meipi.jpg

        • I’d have to say then that you must have been incredibly ignorant. I’d heard of Warpack long before I found the FTR site. For crying out loud, whenever some kid gets unhappy that he got shot in a way that he can’t explain (but usually entirely explainable by someone else) the first words out of his fingers in chat are almost always “warpack”!

          I don’t doubt that there are many other far less well known cheat mods, but I wouldn’t put warpack in the same category. I don’t think that it’d be much of a stretch to say that it’s about as well known as XVM, even if most people may not know what warpack actually does.

          • I don’t pay much attention to anything in chat unless it’s related to battle, so yeah, in a way I am ignorant. Still doesn’t deny there are more players like me (turned off chat, etc)

            • Doesn’t change the issue. The player who wants to cheat can Google it, without having heard of it and will still find it. Posting the link here doesn’t change that. The fact you haven’t heard of it, is most likely because you haven’t thought of (or at least not enough to Google it) cheating (yet :P)…

    • Exactly as SS said. You are an idiot Peter Wankmann. These problems never get resolved until more attention is brought to them.

    • This is analogous to thinking that the failure of security by obscurity is the fault of the person who reveals it instead of realizing that the mere idea of relying on such a system is ridiculous and irresponsible.

    • Wtf is this BS attitude? How is news guilty of crime it reports about? No he isn’t as guilty as WG

  5. I don’t think replays can list mods, they can only list the files in the mod folder, which alone is pretty useless since many different mods may use the same files.

    And they clearly don’t contain the whole contents of the mods folder, they are no where near big enough.

    Anyway, replay files have been pretty much dissected and if there was any anti cheat stuff in there someone will be along in a second to tell us.

  7. Does someone from FTR readers have similar experience from RU server? What happens, when you report someone for cheating to RU support? Do they at least check such cases and reply something more useful?

    • Yes they basically kick the crap out of you.
      There are extremely strict rules in RU.Nothing like this bullcrap.I am amazed how bad thw WG EU is.

    • I remember what it was like before the EU team took over, and there was no in game report system, or replays.

      You would report someone for team damage with a screenshot and get banned yourself.

  8. This is just ridiculous… This PL guy sure wants to test WG EU, earlier I thought that he was just another pesky cheater. No offense to him.

    The fact that WG EU customer service acts like morons only has two possible reasons. The staff is lazy and it’s not easy enough to do anything outside their templates. Or WG EU has hired some clueless people there, so they can’t take a stand against anything due to incompetence.

    • Laziness and incompetence are not exclusive … I guess it starts with incompetent HR department hiring anyone and no control mechanisms inside company as weird behavior is common among any local WG support staff.

  9. You can open one of your replays and check if it contains a list of used mods. You’ll find nothing. So not even replays can prove 100% if a player was using for example aimbot or he’s just that good and RNGesus is on his side.

    gg wp WG EU!

    • Actually, aimbot should be easy to detect. When moving the mouse a *manual* player will make many micro corrections. A bot will not.

      • Why couldn’t a mod maker implement random micro corrections into his aimbot? Yes, it would make the aim bot less effective but very hard to detect. I think it’s possible to approximate how people aim from huge patch of replays publicly available, also can filter those baddie replays off.

        You are right, it would still be mathematically possible to recognize tweaked aiming from manual aiming, but in what scale… Eye and brain would not see any difference.

        Fighting illegal mods is like playing rat and mouse. Mod maker will always get over obstacles game maker creates, it’s their job and they get money from it. Also something like challenge. You could for example put image recognition tasks for tankers who are likely bots. Two solutions where:
        -modder implements code to analyze those images
        -modder implements solution to send picture forward to Indian sweat shop where humans solve this shit virtually for free, could pay for it by showing ads to bot users.

    • You are right that the replay does not contain easily readable list of mods (I know that, yesterday I managed to crack replays open and suck battle data of it which will result is a nice piece of software one day no far away enabling to read data from all your replays (even 0.8.11.0 replays are readable with only newly-introduced data missing). But what about the coded part of the replay? (after the list of players/vehicles, basically 90% of replay file size). I guess there could be easily some sort of mods or game stuff that was modded at that moment.

      If WG can’t discover mods running within their own game, something is wrong. I can’t get it – a software engineer must include something in his software to enable mods – some kind of handles here and there to enable mod to load and work. So WG must have done the same thing and now they can’t tell? How it is possible to mod a reticle movement? minimap to permashow tracers? player that shot you even when unspotted? This is strange and I blame WG that thay are no telling the entire truth. Something it the game is either gigantically fucked up or they do it on purpose (Dont forget Warpack works with premium account only…)

  10. Technically I don’t see any reason they could not keep track of mods used, maybe not in replays but logs on servers. There are many methods to detect mods

    For me it’s more some lazyness from WGEU not wanting to deal with the issue (however would be interrested to know how much really use “banned” mods… probably we’ll never know).

    Now I find you pretty confidend to post this and hope WG will do anything about this… if WG EU is to change that will not be in the next days (nor weeks), and this post is more like saying ” ok guys, use any mod you want to ‘cheat’, WG does’nt give a f*$k about it !”…. kind of playing with fire.

    • I think it’s technically impossible as mods are just replacements for client side logic. They have no installer or something to identify them, it’s just package of Python and/or Action Script files and graphic that may replace some internal functions or react to events. I believe some of them as auto fire ext. can be written by nearly anyone, it requires just time and will to do it.

      • Still, it’s technically possible :
        - client could include hashes (signatures, anti-virus like) of identified illegal mods and simply not load the mods and/or not start the client (and send a report to WG). (that would need some regular updates from WG…).
        - client can list res_mod content (or hash) and transmit to server within the packets exchanged with server (at battle launch for example).
        - client can transmit actions to server (well… that’s what is done anyway…) and server can determine patterns that could trigger a suspicious illegal mod usage
        (and probably many more solutions I’ve not thougth about…)

        this will require some side-analysis of course, but can be performed offline by monitoring servers (and to reduce the load, only for players having recieved complains)…

        The point is that it’s more laziness than technical issue.

        • So then you make your cheats outside the game.

          The only result of having WG verified mods will be a huge delay between patches and updated mods being available.

          • That would only happen if the mod department was incredibly lazy (which they would be at WG EU). Several other games already employ this though, so it really is possible…

  14. WG really needs to fire all fucknuggets from EU and start anew with a competent crew.

    If WG NA can do their job well for a much smaller community, EU can do it as well.

  16. so
    not only had I been wrongfully banned, because I am and was innocent, no, I had also been wrongfully banned, because WG doesnt ban hackz0rs/cheat0rs

    awesome

    • SS seems to be the only one who says that WG EU doesnt ban for cheating/hacking whatever you call it…

      • No, I’ve heard it all through our WoT alliance too. Pretty much the worst any of them (over 300+ members across 5 clans) have ever had were chatbans for a few days for ranting in chat :P. And some of them run some pretty shady mods… But since WG doesn’t care about them, neither does clan leadership…

  17. we will see soon TWITCH streamers who will use WAR-PACK just for fun and just to piss off WG.

    • actually this sounds like best way how to fight WG EU in this matter.
      Now we only need to find some1 known and willing to do this shit for real

      • When AW gets into open beta there may be a few willing to do it. Foch seems pretty fed up with the game most of the time.

  18. Someone should make a video commercial for Warpack, (with a huge amount of sarcasm) showing clearly how it works, what can do, and also the replys from WG EU, proving how WG does not give a shit about it.

  19. EU office wont get sacked. Nobody cares about EU, its just money milking in EU. Market is obviously satisfied.

    And in case you wonder. I made pleenty of tickets about stuff, even about stuff in payment etc. And all you get is a standard auto fucking message and no help.

    You can spend all the money you want and threatn you will quit the game, but EU doesnt care as 90% of people that say that allready have premium account days or money spend so much that they will not quit.

    To sum it up. Wargaming sucks. Since I know how WG responded to Warpack I didnt play Tanks. but unfurtunately I have 40 days of premium account left.. But what the fuck can I do? They allready have my money. They just dont care and give a SHIT. But in any other game its no different. And that is a fact.

    • To ease your suffering, it seems to be WG EU only, not WG in general. And supposedly they have noticed and things might actually change…

      However, it being WG, it might all be a pipe-dream…

  20. WG EU, seriously. Stationed in Paris staffed by staff of multiple nationalities sounds like a disaster waiting to happen in my ears and somehow it’s every bit as terrible as it sounds.
    ( Though, presumably more French people work there than anything else, WG EU is really not leaving a good impression of the French… )

    Completely and utterly disregarding player support and messing up all the time. Internal communication seems to barely exist and when somebody else does actually walk up to take the microphone he just blurts the same thing while being dismissive about the issue presented to them calling onto player morality. Because immorality apparently isn’t an issue in the modern world? Are you kidding me?

            • HOW it is a cheat if it is allowed in EU and every fucking single of them freekills can use it? HOW a public thing can be a cheat?

              • It’s against the game rules=cheat.And it gives an unfair advantage against those who don’t know about it.

                I don’t care much about it in random battles, I’ll still own the average tomato even if they have warpack, but in clan wars, where the tactics actually matters, the destroyed objects revealed on the minimap part gives a huge advantage.

                • And in ESL, too.There’s the useless ESL wire anti-cheat of course, but it does nothing in WoT.

                • Oh, so XVM stats, XVM minimap, damage announcer, precise damage direction is cheat also? You are not worthy to discuss this…

                • It’s Woras, he is always rude if you disagree with him.

                  However, I disagree with your initial post on advertising cheats. Is a newspaper advertising crime if it reports it, saying how the bad guys managed to rob a bank? Should we stop reporting on crime all together? Security by obscurity is an automatic fail…

  23. So, when’s the meeting about wg eu in minsk? Will you get any info about the result SS (presumably from the Insider)?

        • To fix a problem like this you need one single person. We had this kind of a problem in our offices around EU and all it took is one round of travel with proper instructions and 3 heads had to be sacked….. That was all we had to do…..

          So in all 6 plane tickets and 3 meetings :) that is how simple it was for us and it works now for the last three years …..

          all the rest is bullshit….

  24. I dont even

    Basically the only two things that I find usefull in this modpack are the laser pointers and the minimap info about destroyed object. Nothing else

    And so I’m free to install those two mods separately (they are not only in warpack, they are also avalivable as separate mods) and cheat the shit out of game

    GG WG. GG

    On the other side – it will be funny when WG EU will receive (because they are too incompenent to make it themselves) a list of banned mods and will have to use it. I sense thousands banned accounts out of nowhere…or maybe not, looking at their actions I smell that even if they would had such list, they wouldnt be banning ppl…because you know – “WG EU”

    Seriously, this company should get nominated for some sort of “worst company” award.

  25. I am not a hater (nor a WG detractor) but this really pisses me off.

    I can ignore small inconveniences generated by laziness or incompetence, but this is getting absurd. And turning into a showstopper (for me).
    I will not extend my prem account and will not buy any premium vehicle for a while.
    If this will not get fixed I am considering abandoning my account and looking into other games.

  27. Ever since I started playing world of tanks 2 years ago I have teamkilled more idiots than I have medals on my stat board. Have I been doing it for shits and giggles? NO. I have been doing it to weed out that one asshole, or platoon that’s just there to fuck things up for my team. My record is of 3 tks in one battle. Every 50 battles, at least one of them is where I have to put down that one cancer wisher or chat spammer everyday. My point? my point is that the ,automated report system’ never worked, AND NEVER WILL, regardless of what wargaming is telling us. It doesn’t matter how many reports one gets, he will never be properly punished. The system is so broken, that I can get blue named if I slightly TAP one of my allies with my tank, but if I unload an entire magazine into him, my name color does not change. When will this system be fixed I wonder? IF it exists that is

      • if you unload a clip with an autoloader wou are banned in 5 sec;
        or if you shoot someone and he catches fire you get a ban as well so
        dont spam here if you know shit ARCHGREED

        • first kmecl, please read the definition of spam, or ask Woras what it means, second, I don’t have to prove shit to you, specially to someone who has under 1k battles ^.^

  29. What would happen if i write a support ticket with the exact same text that Milkm4n_PL write?
    Would i get the exact same (automatic) answer?

  30. What does the scum at WG EU does during their work hours? Watch porn? Play War Thunder? Go shopping? Sit in a pub and rejoice about how generously WG pays for them doing everything except their work? OMFG!

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  32. I have considered trying out these cheats just to see them first hand, but I didn’t. I am just not interested. For me the thrill of playing WoT is not to dominate everybody else, but to see how far I get when playing within the boundaries of the program as intended by the game makers and as publicly understood. I want to see how good I really am. Cheating in WoT is somewhat like coming to a bicycle race with a motorcycle. Ofc you will win, but in the end it will not be your performance that won, it won’t be you yourself who was better than every other competitor. So in the end it was a meaningless, pointless and hence worthless victory. Being better than others due to doping or other means outside of the regular competition and available tools is not just honorless, it has absolutely no value. It’s like believing masturbating would be a worthy replacement for having sex with a real sex partner. You can boast about your potence as long as you want, but you never had or did the real thing. You just played with yourself.

    • I am of the same opinion as yourself, is playing a GAME so important that you have to cheat/gain an unfair advantage?
      Why do the world’s sports bodies do regular testing and ban those who take proscribed drugs ? – so it is a level playing field.
      I have been accused of cheating a number of times – falsely – when I have used the bushes to hid my TD, and have Binos to extend view range over my target. But every one can do this.
      The cheats available on, for example, Warpack, mean I don’t have to use skill to lead a moving tank. When I do manage to do so, then this is so much more satisfying

      But any of the OMC mods I use don’t make the GAME any easier, just ADDS to the game (I zapped that Unicum before they saw me, etc).

      I’m know I’m a below average player, but enjoy the GAME – it’s a wind-down after work.

      I know b*gger all about computers, I wasn’t born with a CPU for a brain or with a graphics card stuffed up my ar*e.

      This is a GAME – nearly all play to enjoy it, & have a laugh at themselves and others ( not maliciously) .

      To those of WG who do read this then please try to level the playing field – get rid of these mods which give an unfair advantage and get rid of those who do use the ‘banned mods’

      Whinge over

      Ta-ra

  33. The WG EU crew should be fired in their entirety, the company there should be closed and reopened in Germany, with German staff. That staff should entirely consist of retired policemen. xD

    • I’m not really sure I would enjoy playing the game, when I’m running the risk of being yelled at simply for not loading the map in time…

  34. Good thing Wargaming doesn’t have a major competitor coming up with a tank game that uses a modern graphical engine and offers pve in addition to pvp ;)

    • I see what you did there :P

      In all seriousness, this is a game breaker for me. If cheats are allowed into the game like this, with no chance of being found out, for me there is no point in my playing it. The sooner AW comes the better as it may take a while for cheats to get into the game, that’s if the setup of the game allows for them at all. Hopefully not, if Obsidian have any sense they will not allow any mods at all.

  35. This isn’t really just a WGEU issue, it is a WG issue. Unless WGNA and WGRU can magically enforce their bans. Which they can’t, all are largely impotent to do so, although NA and RU pretend that they can.

    • Actualy, WG RU is very strict, bans every single player they caught cheating, and also publish their name.

      WG NA doesnt publish names I think, but they do have a list of forbidden mods.

      WG EU is just a bunch of morons being paid at doing nothing.
      A retarded kid with one harm and no help could do their job for free:

      1) read the title of ticket
      2) select the corresponding category:
      -mod
      -player report
      -gold problem
      -question
      3) press the macro corresponding
      4) click “send”

      Here you go, you answered a ticket.

  36. I must say it is rather funny that I have a ticket where I ask WG EU about the Free Camera mod, and the answer clearly states that it is NOT allowed in random battles.

    Well, that’s fine, but which list was used to determine that THAT mod is not allowed…

  37. I’m speechless, two WG EU fails posted today ….
    We need a critical mass of players, clans and “community contributors” who stop paying for wot and stop promoting it until WG EU punishes the cheaters …

  38. I feel sorry for Wot EU, but on the other hand. While NA server have a list of banned mods and you can get ban if caught using it. I seen this a few time on wot forum where someone openly admit that he uses it with screenshots, videos or steam live…………. I’m just surprise that WG Eu is not doing anything about it…. lol . I kinda feel sorry for you, that you have to deal with this crap. SS

  39. The incompetence level at WG EU is so high that they dont even mind providing lame replies as this one of Antoine Dodson.

    But the incompetence is not confined to WG EU Paris offices only. I have met german WG staff from the Berlin office and the incompetence level is similar.

    Basically, WG EU is a shabby outfit, with poor leadership and staff recruited under very low standards.

  40. Anyone knows where can I get that mode that shows you fallen trees, destroyed objects, etc. for free? I know it is a part of warpack but you have to pay for that?

  41. So there you go, every mod is permitted. So now just stop bitching and use whatever mods you want.
    Hopefully all the tomatoes will use warpack so they aren’t completely useless anymore.

  42. This definitely makes me angry that the issue is not taken seriously. I used to play on the NA server and have progressed very far in it sinking lots of money into the game (lots by my standards – around 120 pounds every 6 months or so). Now that I have been relocated to the Middle East, I’m forced to use the EU server and start fresh as it gives me the best experience at stable ping. But after reading this, I am definitely not keen on dropping bills into a division of the same company (where the hell is a basic standardised product? this is 2015 right?? how do we still see product discrimination??) that has no intention of admitting its problems, and most of all, rectifying it!

    Surely, a standard reply would be, don’t play the game etc. etc. however it is was the same situation on NA server I would damn well demand and protest for a fix cause I bloody paid them. It doesn’t make me a privileged player or anything, but it annoys me that we are actually paying them to do their damn job and they aren’t doing it. Then why should I keep playing on premium accounts? Why should I buy premium tanks? If they wouldn’t fulfil the basic functions of providing a fair game why should I bother playing and paying. I would feel cheated if they make no effort to tackle cheats.

    In that case, thanks for this article FTR, no business for WG EU from my side. Since my ping is too high on the other servers, that means no playing WoT altogether. Good job WG, good job Antonie for your copy paste attitude. Just as the gentlemen mentioned in his support ticket, I’m out. I love this game but not at the price of unfair play.

      • It is possible yes but the point is that they are paid staff doing work there, are they so incompetent that they can’t produce a cheat free game? Is it that tall of an order? Is this something bizzare?

  44. Morgotz got banned for cheating once remember? His “aimbot” gave him two weeks ban, tho the reason for his ban was due to popular opinion…

  47. Give me a blindfold,a potato, a keyboard and 24 hours and i’ll give you a better answer

  48. Why do you blame WG EU? They can’t do anything about it. They cannot prove a player used forbidden mods, nor can WGru or any WG branch. Correct me if I’m wrong.
    I guess RU or NA, who apparently do a good job, just do guess from replays and screenshots, who might be using forbidden things. So it happens that players get banned innocently, if I can believe other commentors. Maybe that is possible due to the nonexistence of consumer protection in RU and NA. Again, correct me if I’m wrong.
    Afaik, screenshots cannot be evidence because it can be manipulated (like Milkm4n assumed smartly) nor does a replay contain used mod details, nor does WG monitor player behaviour server-side other than team damage.

    After all, the game developers would have to implement tools to detect forbidden mods, not WGeu. Its WGs heads who fuck us up laughing.

    We should stop spending money and time on the game, or start using cheats and bots, so the sooner the problem gets bigger and bigger, the faster WG has to react.

    • They can’t do anything about that? Seriously? They can f*cking read, can they?

      Most of the functions of the mod mentioned here are in direct violation of the game rules, they can actually ACT on that and ban any players who are shown to use it. But do they? No.

      • They can’t prove it in any way (yet, until they develop tools to do so). And I guess consumer protection is the institution they dont want a fight with because of false positives.

  49. I have been playing WOT for a long time, I think it was on 6.0? Anyway I used to play clean only using mods that most people said was not cheats. But then something happened going up against top clans I couldn’t hold my own at all. Then you see tanks that move and fire faster than any tank you have with 5-6 crew skills plus gas ect. You spot cheats and send in tickets with replays and nothing happens. You are told that WOT doesn’t want to upset the big clans that hold land in clanwars. So you start checking out the so called illegal mods and you know what they work and most people playing WOT are using them. So if you want to play at a disadvantage thats fine but , WOT and I are tried of hearing people cry about it.

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  51. Hell their support personnel even suck at English… someone needs to get in there and reorganize that shit or just plain wipe it out and start over…