Penetration changes in 0.8.6

Source: wot-news.com

The list of final pen changes. First is the name of the shell, then the gun it was intended for, then the 0.8.5 pen and finally the 0.8.6 pen

Chuan bei-472	122 mm 60-122T	257	249
Chuan bei-472	122 mm 60-122TG	268	258
Po-122	122 mm 60-122T	400	340
Po-122	122 mm 60-122TG	400	340
OCO mle. 1926	75 mm APX 1897	100	91
OCO mle. 1926	75 mm SA32	100	91
Gr. 39 Hl/B	10,5 cm le.F.H. 18 L/28	150	104
OCO mle. 1936	105 mm court mle. 1934 S	150	104
OCO mle. 1936	105 mm AC court mle. 1934 S	150	104
OCO mle. 1936	105 mm court mle. 1935 B	150	104
OCO mle. 1944	Canon de 155 mm	233	185
OCO mle. 1944	Canon de 155 mm mle. 1917 G.P.F.	232	185
OCO mle. 1944	Canon de 155 mm de 33 calibres	232	185
OCO mle. 1944	Obusier de 155 mm C mle. 1917	232	185
OCO mle. 1944	Obusier de 155 mm mle. 1950	232	185
Prf. mle. 1943	120 mm SA46	267	257
Prf. mle. 1943	120 mm AC SA46	267	257
Frt.Prf. mle. 1945	120 mm SA46	351	325
Frt.Prf. mle. 1945	120 mm AC SA46	351	325
OCC-105-F1	105 mm mle. 57 (D. 1504)	360	330
Gr 38 HL A	7,5 cm KwK 37 L/24	100	87
Gr 39 H1A	10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28	150	104
Gr 39 H1A	10,5 cm KwK 42 L/28	150	104
Gr 39 H1A	10,5 cm le.F.H. 16 L/22	150	104
Gr 39 H1A	10,5 cm le.F.H. 18 L/28	150	104
Gr 39 H1A	15 cm s.F.H. 13 L/17	228	185
Gr 39 H1A G	15 cm s.F.H. 18 L/30	228	185
Gr 39 H1A L	15 cm s.I.G. 33 L/11	228	185
Gr 39 H1A K	0,5 cm KwK 45 L/52 Ausf. K	350	330
HEAT-T T384E4	10,5 cm Bordkanone L7A3	350	330
HEAT-T T384E4	10,5 cm L7A1	350	330
AP-T L1	120 mm AT Gun L1A1	269	259
AP-T L1	120 mm Gun L1A1	269	259
APDS L1	120 mm AT Gun L1A1	352	326
APDS L1	120 mm Gun L1A1	352	326
HEAT M66	75 mm AT Howitzer M3	100	91
HEAT M66	75 mm Howitzer M1A1	100	91
HEAT M66	75 mm Howitzer M3	100	91
HEAT M67	105 mm AT Howitzer M3	150	101
HEAT M67	105 mm AT M4	150	101
HEAT M67	105 mm Howitzer M2A1	150	101
HEAT M67	105 mm Howitzer M3	150	101
HEAT M67	105 mm Howitzer M4	150	101
HEAT M67	105 mm M4	150	101
AP-T M358	120 mm Gun M58	269	258
AP-T M358	120 mm Gun T179	269	258
HEAT-T T384E4	105 mm Gun M68	350	330
HEAT-T T384E4	105 mm Gun M68	350	330
HEAT-T M469	120 mm Gun M58	381	340
HEAT-T M469	120 mm Gun T122	330	340
HEAT-T M469	120 mm Gun T179	381	340
BP-350А	76 мм F-32	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм KТ-28	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм L-10	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм L-10U	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм L-10S	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм L-11	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм Obr. 1902/30 G. 30 K	100	75
BP-350А	76 мм FG 1927 G	100	75
BP-460А	122 мм М-30S	160	140
BP-460А	122 мм U-11	160	140
BP-460АО	122 мм Howitzer 1910/30	160	140
UBR-482	130 мм S-70	260	250
53-BP-540	152 мм МL-20S	228	250
53-BP-540	152 мм МL-20SМ оbr. 1944	228	250
53-BP-540	152 мм МL-20 оbr. 1931/37	228	250
53-BP-540	152 мм МL-20 оbr. 1931	228	250
BR-471D	122 мм М62-S2	268	258
BR-471D	122 мм М62-S2	268	258
3UBK4	100 мм D-10Т2S	350	330
3UBK4	100 мм D-54S	350	330
3UBK4	100 мм D-54ТS	350	330
3UBK4	100 мм D-54	350	330
3UBK4М	100 мм U-8ТS	350	330
BK-9	122 мм М62-S2	400	340
BK-9	122 мм М62-S2	400	340

22 thoughts on “Penetration changes in 0.8.6”

150-104 and 150-101 hell yeah! :P

Seems quite nice, now armor might count something again. Right now armor only protects against 2 tiers lower enemies, but you get shot to cheese by same tier enemies no matter what you do ..

Are these shells all gold shells that are being nerfed or are there a few normal shells?

Corvi on June 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm said:

Its mixed. There are a lot of normal AP shells getting nerfed too, but also prem ones.

and what about telling what tank use what gun? i find impossible to understand a thing.

zenobs on June 18, 2013 at 12:12 pm said:

http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Gun/USA
http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Gun/UK
…and so on^^
- jesus sainz on June 18, 2013 at 12:16 pm said:
  
  go 1 by 1? no thanks
  - Anonymous on June 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm said:
    
    lazy bitch
Alex on June 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm said:

T10 AP/HEAT/APCR, mid tier artillery sheels along with derp gun sheels and some russian 76mm sheels.
- Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 1:21 pm said:
  
  I’m guessing this will be the end of gold-slinging, one-shotting derp-PzIVs and M4s? Because that’s good news!
  - Darkmancer on June 18, 2013 at 1:55 pm said:
    
    There’s plenty of things p4 can insta derp even in its own tier (eg stug), so newb yourself.
  - Corvi on June 18, 2013 at 1:56 pm said:
    
    Your caps lock is broken. And you can obeshot all tier 4 tanks and tier 5 TDs with a 105 HEAT. Just sayin. Also yeh, HE to the right spot is more effective because of the higher dmg, with that you can really obeshot most tier 5 tanks. So no change there. Real derp pros shoot HE anyway and use Heat only if flanking would be too dangerous.
  - Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 2:13 pm said:
    
    Marky Mark, you missed by a mile. I can’t count how many times I got instakilled by Pzs or M4s. So apparently, other players can do it, why can’t you, “newb”?
  - Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 4:48 pm said:
    
    Maybe try it without caps lock, correct punctuation and in proper english. Or you know what… just wait until you hit at least 17, then come back and post.

Mark, you take any medicine?

…
You know it might help.

As for the penetration changes, it may be a good thing, on the test server heavily armoured tanks definitely bounce much more, even with gold flying all over the place.

I’m glad they’re nerfing tier 10 guns’ pen, armor on the Maus and E-100 becomes useful again, but 113 and IS-7 got hit rly hard. Maybe they should have nerfed TDs as well (thinking around 280 pen)

Somehow they determined the 152mm ML-20 guns needed a HEAT buff? wtf

L0rd_0f_War on June 19, 2013 at 6:57 am said:

Yeah i am also surprised at the unnecessary increase in HEAT penetration for Russian 152mm Guns. 228mm pen was already very good, and i used HEAT on Stock ISU152 gun for grinding the BL10. They did increase the price of the shells from 4800 to 6000, but that makes no difference to in game penetration/OP mechanics.
- Wulfshark on June 19, 2013 at 10:02 pm said:
  
  i think this is in correlation with the removal of the 152 HEAT shells on the KV-2

Am I the only one that noticed that they ninja nerfed the M103/T110E5 top guns pen, or did I miss it somewhere? In 8.5 the 120mm M58 pen is 269 but in 8.6 the pen is now 258. Also, the gold rounds were nerfed from 381 to 340.

Aaron on June 18, 2013 at 10:56 pm said:

Never mind I see it now. This is the first time I have seen this posted Anywhere. Why did they nerf it?

As if the Sau-40′s top 75mm didn’t suck enough already…

Hajvanho on June 18, 2013 at 11:22 am said:

150-104 and 150-101 hell yeah! :P
Corvi on June 18, 2013 at 11:35 am said:

Seems quite nice, now armor might count something again. Right now armor only protects against 2 tiers lower enemies, but you get shot to cheese by same tier enemies no matter what you do ..
Warxofx23th on June 18, 2013 at 11:57 am said:

Are these shells all gold shells that are being nerfed or are there a few normal shells?
- Corvi on June 18, 2013 at 12:02 pm said:
  
  Its mixed. There are a lot of normal AP shells getting nerfed too, but also prem ones.
jesus sainz on June 18, 2013 at 12:06 pm said:

and what about telling what tank use what gun? i find impossible to understand a thing.
- zenobs on June 18, 2013 at 12:12 pm said:
  
  http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Gun/USA
  http://wiki.worldoftanks.com/Gun/UK
  …and so on^^
  - jesus sainz on June 18, 2013 at 12:16 pm said:
    
    go 1 by 1? no thanks
    - Anonymous on June 18, 2013 at 1:02 pm said:
      
      lazy bitch
- Alex on June 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm said:
  
  T10 AP/HEAT/APCR, mid tier artillery sheels along with derp gun sheels and some russian 76mm sheels.
  - Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 1:21 pm said:
    
    I’m guessing this will be the end of gold-slinging, one-shotting derp-PzIVs and M4s? Because that’s good news!
    - Darkmancer on June 18, 2013 at 1:55 pm said:
      
      There’s plenty of things p4 can insta derp even in its own tier (eg stug), so newb yourself.
    - Corvi on June 18, 2013 at 1:56 pm said:
      
      Your caps lock is broken. And you can obeshot all tier 4 tanks and tier 5 TDs with a 105 HEAT. Just sayin. Also yeh, HE to the right spot is more effective because of the higher dmg, with that you can really obeshot most tier 5 tanks. So no change there. Real derp pros shoot HE anyway and use Heat only if flanking would be too dangerous.
    - Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 2:13 pm said:
      
      Marky Mark, you missed by a mile. I can’t count how many times I got instakilled by Pzs or M4s. So apparently, other players can do it, why can’t you, “newb”?
    - Adam Meizner on June 18, 2013 at 4:48 pm said:
      
      Maybe try it without caps lock, correct punctuation and in proper english. Or you know what… just wait until you hit at least 17, then come back and post.
Csocso on June 18, 2013 at 3:29 pm said:

Mark, you take any medicine?

…
You know it might help.

As for the penetration changes, it may be a good thing, on the test server heavily armoured tanks definitely bounce much more, even with gold flying all over the place.
Yurra on June 18, 2013 at 3:33 pm said:

I’m glad they’re nerfing tier 10 guns’ pen, armor on the Maus and E-100 becomes useful again, but 113 and IS-7 got hit rly hard. Maybe they should have nerfed TDs as well (thinking around 280 pen)
Anonymous on June 18, 2013 at 4:06 pm said:

Somehow they determined the 152mm ML-20 guns needed a HEAT buff? wtf
- L0rd_0f_War on June 19, 2013 at 6:57 am said:
  
  Yeah i am also surprised at the unnecessary increase in HEAT penetration for Russian 152mm Guns. 228mm pen was already very good, and i used HEAT on Stock ISU152 gun for grinding the BL10. They did increase the price of the shells from 4800 to 6000, but that makes no difference to in game penetration/OP mechanics.
  - Wulfshark on June 19, 2013 at 10:02 pm said:
    
    i think this is in correlation with the removal of the 152 HEAT shells on the KV-2
Aaron on June 18, 2013 at 10:53 pm said:

Am I the only one that noticed that they ninja nerfed the M103/T110E5 top guns pen, or did I miss it somewhere? In 8.5 the 120mm M58 pen is 269 but in 8.6 the pen is now 258. Also, the gold rounds were nerfed from 381 to 340.
- Aaron on June 18, 2013 at 10:56 pm said:
  
  Never mind I see it now. This is the first time I have seen this posted Anywhere. Why did they nerf it?
teresh on June 18, 2013 at 11:43 pm said:

As if the Sau-40′s top 75mm didn’t suck enough already…