Hello everyone,
just a quick update (thanks to some very decent people from WG RU for confirming this). The patchnotes for 9.0 – at least the Russian ones – are fucked up. What it says there:
Угол склонения орудия 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/28 уменьшен с 7 до 5°.
Угол склонения орудия 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/43 уменьшен с 8 до 7°.
Угол склонения орудия 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 уменьшен с 8 до 6°.
Translated:
Angle of depression of the gun 10,5 cm Kw.K. L/28 reduced from 7 to 5 degrees
Angle of depression of the gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/43 reduced from 8 to 7 degrees
Angle of depression of the gun 7,5 cm Kw.K. 40 L/48 reduced from 8 to 6 degrees
This “common” depression applies only when the gun is aiming at the sides. It was reduced for the gun not to interfere with the Schurzen. The L/48 gun depression aiming forward is actually 10 degrees (in a 60 degree angle, eg. 30 degrees from the axis of the vehicle on each side), with 9 degrees when facing backwards.
For the L/43 it’s 10 degrees depression both facing forwards and backwards. For the 105mm howitzer, it’s 10 degrees forward and 8 backward.
Well that cleared things out…. but the max speed nerf is srill something…. I CRI EVRI TIEM ABUT ;__;
yeah, now the M4 Sherman is the choice for the derp.
Disagree. Pz IV H murders M4′s with it’s ability to eat HE shells with the newly added schurzen.
Sherman still have -12 gun depression, all around except backward.
Fuk Sherman! German tenks all day!
http://i.imgur.com/UdgnaB6.jpg
German document showing gun depression on panzer III and IV with side skirting.
that is interesting…
for everyone whos not able to speak german: the last sentence says:
“the gundepression did not surpass 7 degree and was therefore deemed acceptable”
so 7 deg is acceptable… i wonder what real life engineers would have said about some fictional (historically accurate!) german WG tanks.
Before you complain you should at least find out which gun they are talking about.
The production order for the Schürzen was for Ausf. G with the 7,5cm L/48. Maybe earlier models still in service received an upgrade but I never saw a picture of an Panzer IV with 7,5cm L/42 and Schürzen.
L3gi: there are reasons why certein tanks were never built or only prototypes built.
And according to the book by Chamberlain, Doyle and Jentz StuG III G with L/48 only had -6 degrees (ingame -10 with L/48 and -7 with L/70) and Jagdpanzer IV had -5 (ingame -6 with L/70 and 8,8 L/56).
They’ll first ask about the shape of the schürzen, moron.
What good is Schurzen in this game?
HE protection.
Allegedly it can hold it’s own against 152mm HEAT
I don’t know about HEAT, but I was able to eat a SU-152 HE shell in a Kursk Historical Battle. Just angle your tank so that they hit the schurzen and try to keep the explosion radius as far off the main hull of your tank as you can. Like this:
http://wotreplays.ru/site/2344702#prohorovka-vajk-pz_kpfw_iv_ausf_h
(at 5:00 remaining)
Did the Panzer IV really use the 105mm howitzer historically? =/
Nope
No
Kinda figured this was what was up! :)
They may as well make the Panzer 4 ausf H mostly historical. Give it the historical 300 HP engine but also give it its historical 80mm mantlet (so that it can go hull down effectively) and give it 5 mm extra armor at the front along with some other historical armor buffs.
Also buff the 75mm L48 so that it can actually fight well with it. Make it a solid medium-heavy hybrid that isn’t similar to the M4 Sherman.
Mantle was NOT 80mm.
And still KV1S (122mm) has overly buffed gun depression.
Well, that is normal.
KV-1S is a soviet tank, and Pz IV is German.