- for now, amphibious tanks won’t be implemented
- Cannoneer (a developer, responsible for historical tank research) states that FV4202 can actually have the 105mm L7, as the 20pdr and 105mm L7 were interchangeable (they used the same mount)
- RU251 dimensions compared to Leopard 1: 10 percent shorter, 8 percent narrower and 14 percent lower (for hull only)
- Leopard prototype cannot be a tier 8 premium tank according to developers, because its every version has a 105mm gun
- IS-6 armor and maximum speed are historically correct, won’t be buffed
- IS-4 will not get S-34 (100mm) and S-34-2 (122mm) guns, that were used on its prototypes. Cannoneer explains that the S-34 is basically the same as the D-10T and the S-34-2 is practically equal to the D-25T
IS-4 will not get S-34 (100mm) and S-34-2 (122mm) guns, that were used on its prototypes. Cannoneer explains that the S-34 is basically the same as the D-10T and the S-34-2 is practically equal to the D-25T
Why do people ask this?? It’s a tier 10 tank, they will use the top gun in every way.. Unless they basically want WG to add a gold sink top tier tank so you have to unlock 4 guns, unless you already have them unlocked from other tanks of course..
Actually, you unlock 2 since both the D-25T and the top gun are pre-requisites to unlocking the IS-4 (of the top of my head anyway, might be wrong).
Ye, you’re right about it ;)
SS,can you ask them why the M48A1 will not be buff?It needs some love and some minor buff to compete with other t10 mediums.
And e50m? Check comparison of tier 10 meds dpm e50m have now 25% less then other tanks (except bat chat)
haha yeah E-50m is weak and the worst Tier10 Tank;D
E-50M is just fine. It’s very mobile with
heavy armor, superb accuracy and
stabilization. It’s also a battering RAM.
Buffing its DPM would make it pretty OP.
But M48 needs a big buff because buffs to
FV4202 and Leopard 1′s DPM rendered it
completely useless and outclassed.
SS can’t ask, he doesn’t have an account on RU that can post stuff up on their forum…we did kinda have a dev answering questions but he left the studio and we sorta ended up with…well, whatever we still have now.
Besides, every regular should know the possible answers to ‘Y U no buff X’ by now:
‘It does not stand out significantly’
‘It’s doing fine statistically’
‘It doesn’t need one’
…
Becuase making an account on the RU cluster for a f2p game is very difficult.
IIRC, you have to have “few” battles on RU server and/or posts on RU forum to gain rights to ask in Q&A, so yeah,it is quite tricky
5000 battles.
5k is needed for posting access to special subforum (where devs answering), for regular it is like on eu forum (50battles).
One could probably buy some 5k acc, it shouldnt be that expensive.
Oh i see,ok.
- Cannoneer (a developer, responsible for historical tank research) states that FV4202 can actually have the 105mm L7, as the 20pdr and 105mm L7 were interchangeable (they used the same mount)
Opening Pandora’s box with that one…
We already knew this, though.
Once all the evil had left the box, what was left inside was hope…or something like that, my greek mythology is a bit rusty. Just trying to make a point of how it can still come back, for all the lovers of all things British.
Yup u remember correctly
Yeah but the gun was never the problem atleast for me.
Unrealistic armor with shitty speed.
Well… No shit, Sherlock. Now, when it’s clear that both can carry the same gun, we’d like to know why Vickers MBT trumps Action X.
Because just about every retard don’t realize that Vickers is a Centurionized Chieftain with superior fire control.
- RU251 dimensions compared to Leopard 1: 10 percent shorter, 8 percent narrower and 14 percent lower (for hull only)
Seems to be rather, big, for a LT.
Granted, the Awful Panther isn’t any smaller.
The Leo is not that big. It’s a pretty small tank. The Panther is bigger. I saw both at the Littlefield Collection before it was sold off.
Panther 2 is bigger than Panther
nope, try again
E-50M is just fine. It’s very mobile with heavy armor, superb accuracy and stabilization. It’s also a battering RAM. Buffing its DPM would make it pretty OP.
But M48 needs a big buff because buffs to FV4202 and Leopard 1′s DPM rendered it completely useless and outclassed.
Opera fucks up again and I can’t backedit this
So, whining about it makes it better? Average WoT player…
M48 is useless. What is there to whine about, it’s a fact that it’s crap.
FV4202 already has almost equal view range, a lower profile and better camo, better mobility and after the buff it will have better DPM than the Fatton. M48 needs its 7.5 RPM back, it has similar gun handling to STB-1 and Rusky meds have close to 3000 DPM with railgun status so it really shouldn’t be a problem.
Also Foch 155 needs a reload and gun handling buff, FV 183 needs to have HESH removed and gun handling buffed, Obj 268 needs shell velocity buffed and maybe a buff to terrain passability, 113 needs a bit more RoF and better passability, T57 needs a reload time nerf, WT E-100 needs to be removed from the game and replaced with something that ain’t made up and game breaking. Period.
- IS-6 armor and maximum speed are historically correct, won’t be buffed
There were people crying for a buff? Like, seriously? This thing’s armor is so overpowered…god-like sidescraping, also the frontal hull armor is invincible to everything under 220mm pen if angled, and sides contain spaced armor just like the 112.
I don’t know much more about this tank as I have never driven it, T34 is waaaay better there ;)
112 spaced armor is bugged though
How so?
There is only a small useless strip of it on the sides while it’s supposed to be like on soviet tanks, check their armor layout.
Def needs buff, only 66% winrate in it :(
- Leopard prototype cannot be a tier 8 premium tank according to developers, because its every version has a 105mm gun
Then why did I have to suffer through the 90mm grind on my Leo PTA?
That’s what I want to hear!
Cause WG wants you to spend money.
He meant every other prototype besides A. Prototyp B was 105 mm from the start.
irc wg admitted leo pta designed to be a gold sink meaning it’s so bad that wg wants you 2 free exp it
So… They are opening an option that the FV4202 will stay as a tier 10??
“- Cannoneer (a developer, responsible for historical tank research) states that FV4202 can actually have the 105mm L7, as the 20pdr and 105mm L7 were interchangeable (they used the same mount)”
—-WG cares about historical, Good good, YOLO YOLO, Working as intended… etc..etc..—–
^^^ That’s what in my head right now :-p
how terrible
I’m still waiting the historical 45km/h top speed for the Tiger 1.
But I know it will never happen…
We had to wait for several years to get Tiger’s top speed buffed from crappy 30 km/h to 40 km/h. 45 km/h ain’t gonna happen soon or anytime for that matter.
Well they gave the 36.01′s top gear speed, maybe it’ll come
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlfFXkds3xs
And made it so it has no hope of reaching even 45kmph without a hill.
“- Leopard prototype cannot be a tier 8 premium tank according to developers, because its every version has a 105mm gun”
What the fuck? The early prototypes in series I had the Rheinmetall’s 90mm rifled gun.
What about the Leopard PTB? Somehow forgot that it exists too? That thing only had the 90mm gun:
http://nast-sonderfahrzeuge.de/MB-Exotenforum/img/uploaded/image70291.jpg
I have this book and it mentions the 90mm multiple times and has lots of pics with the prototypes from both Group A and B with 90mm gun:
http://www.barbarossabooks.eu/leopard-1-trilogy-vol-1-prototype-to-production-p-4506.html
I guess the problem is to find reliable data for these guns … or even names
Oh that book has lots of drawings about the different projects. I will post some soon.
Like the “105mm Rifled Gun” case for Type 61 Japanese T9 tank…
No, that’s just the RO L7 named differently by WG
No, that is the Japanese designation for its own modified L7.
Well I can’t say about the gun, but THERE are prototypes with the 90mm gun. It wouldn’t be that hard for WG to make up a name and stats for the gun.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8512731/Leopard%20Prototype%20BOOK/Leopard1.1.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8512731/Leopard%20Prototype%20BOOK/Leopard2.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8512731/Leopard%20Prototype%20BOOK/Leopard3.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8512731/Leopard%20Prototype%20BOOK/Leopard4.png
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8512731/Leopard%20Prototype%20BOOK/Leopard5.png
Just a few drawings and pics of the 90mm on Leopard.
Especially the Group B vehicle. I thought the reasons they could not put that into the game was that because Germany won’t let WG to research it. Not some BS about the Leopard not having the 90mm gun. Also there should be a Leopard Group B turret in Sweden too.
WG has a new policy. “Don’t Make Shit Up”. ALL new tanks MUST adhere to that policy.
Well, that sounds BS. The “newest” WTE100 sure seems to follow that policy.
This policy was created BECAUSE of the WTF-100.
There are several designs for the Leo. However it is not as easy as you might think. Some info is currently impossible to get and not because it does not exist. Other parts however do not exist in the public record and thus are impossible to get.
Do not underestimate the problems with trying to research a fairly modern tank.
There are somethings that people still try to keep under wraps.
Gun data is one of them…
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- for now, amphibious tanks won’t be implemented
Thanks, I’m glad someone has finally asked the devs about it.
Now we only need to know if they will implement skill MM. I’m really wondering why no one has asked this, yet… http://goo.gl/EFiuan
Skill MM has been denied over and over again for Random Btls. and has only been ever slightly considered ever as a seperate game-mode. It also has a crap audience, and imo as a purple recent playing against other people of your same skill level is no fun.
” It also has a crap audience, and imo as a purple recent playing against other people of your same skill level is no fun.”
If can’t stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
So if the L7 105mm is interchangeable with the 20 pounder would it have been possible to mount it on the M1 Abrams and M60?
A version of the 105 WAS mounted on the M1 Abrams.
I know it was I am wondering if the 20 pounder could’ve been mounted in it too.
But I always wanted to drive an amphibious tank on Himmelsdorf, Ensk, Ruinberg, Steppes, Westfield, …!
So how about German Patton tanks…? IIRC the M48A1 has 90mm and might work for a premium VIII