If you watch Yeong or Jim Sterling, you probably already know about this but if you don’t and still play any free to play game, check this out:
A lot of people has this weird notion in their heads that the games industry is a nice place where people get together to create fun products for their customers and so on. Well, this is the reality that’s valid for many F2P games, if not all.
Ladies and gentlemen, our fake tank parade continues with another great example. This time, Wargaming calls it Kampfpanzer 50t.
According to Wargaming’s description, it’s supposed to be “One of the medium tank projects that were developed in Germany in the 1960s…”
Naturally, not being an expert in everything, I went and asked someone who really IS an expert on anything German and was involved, amongst other things, in the original introduction of RU251 to WoT.
You can see where this is going, can’t you?
That’s right. This vehicle was never developed. It was taken from this page, specifically this image:
Basically, what you’re looking at is a drawing from a book from 1958 that depict the idea of its author, Ferdinand Maria von Senger und Etterlin, regarding how a “future combat tank” could look like.
The author was certainly an interesting person and had plenty of experience from the war (he was a tank unit commander), but he was not a tank designer or involved in tank design (at least not directly and until the Leopard 1 era). As such, the drawings weren’t based on developed tank designs – they were, for the lack of better term, musings of a veteran soldier regarding what he’d like on tanks.
Okay, if I am to be honest, this is slightly better than the totally fake T 27, but not enough to make a difference. So, let’s ask our resident expert – what’s the verdict:
Armored Warfare for consoles has a small but dedicated group of members who create pretty nice content sometimes :) But let’s face it, what caught my eye was definitely the music. And a few scenes (mostly caused by bugs so probably not good for promoting on official channels).
In all seriousness, I’m really happy to see relatively funny stuff like this, especially on consoles that make it much harder to capture videos and all that stuff. This was taken on Xbox if I am not mistaken.
Yeah, I totally stole this off Rita’s blog but what the hell. If you’re following various military blogs and such, you might have noticed a case from not so long ago when a rare, partially restored Nashorn – as you know, that’s a WW2 German tank destroyer – burned down. It’s a damn shame, they even made the chassis run.
That was then. This is now:
Long story short, its owners are now collecting money for fixing the poor thing. They estimate the damage at 200k EUR, which is, a lot. Kudos to them, I might have given up after seeing so much work go up in flames. But they didn’t.
If you feel so inclined and have some cash to burn, you can support the project here:
it’s been a while, hasn’t it. The appearance of the newest Czechoslovak premium MBT prompted me to make a post because, in case you haven’t noticed from all those years before, Czechoslovak tanks are kinda my thing and I was involved in the creation of the CZ branch all those years ago. So, let’s get the most important message out of the way first:
T 27 is a fake, much like most of the Italian and Polish branches. It never existed, even on paper, it was made up by Wargaming to fill the premium slot.
Furthermore, the article I linked above states:
The Škoda T 27 (Czechoslovak, Tier 8, premium, autoloader) is already in the patch 1.5 files. It was originally slated for release with the Czech Medium tech tree branch. Something went wrong and it has made it into the game two and a half years late.
This is also not true to the best of my knowledge. This vehicle was never intended as a part of the initial line, even as a premium, because the line was supposed to be sort of realistic, possibly sort of as the last one (not sure about the Swedes but the guy who helped with it, sp15, was also critical, hard to say). The autoloaders, for example, are a huge stretch but hey, whatever helped bring them in, right.
What happened was, roughly a year ago, someone from WG came to me and asked vaguely for possible hightier medium candidates. I was like uhhhhh… there aren’t that many. There was that turret developed for Porsche’s Tiger, there was the T-51 tank by ČKD (sister project to the T-50) and that was pretty much it. The latter – well, not much is known about it, but I suggested it as a possible candidate. Then nothing happened and next thing you know, we get this tank.
Even the official description says so (in Russian):
My main gripe is that the T-17 was never developed or considered for conversion into a medium tank. There are no resources or documents that would support this theory, to my knowledge anyway.
This is, furthermore, supported by the following:
88mm autoloader was never considered or developed for any project, the gun was not very historical, its addition to the Czechoslovak line was suggested by me as one of the early drafts but a German trophy gun would definitely not be used for an advanced project like that (keep in mind that T-17 is the zenith of Czechoslovak tank design, one of its last projects)
Whoever named it just assumed the wartime nomenclature carried over at Škoda (2 signifies Medium Tank, 7 signifies 7th project of the weight category). It didn’t and the name makes no sense because T-17 was the 7th project of the light tank line (T-16 was a heavily modified T-15), while there was no Škoda T-26. Its predecessor at Škoda would be T-40 or T-50 even.
Come on, it’s just an upscaled T-17
Now, you might be asking, why does this even matter? So Wargaming produces fakes, who cares. It’s a game. Well, yes… it is a game, but one with tremendous cultural impact. I wonder how many Polish kids will grow up with fantasies of amazing post-war heavy tank projects when the reality was… let’s say not as kind.
Anyway, enough ranting. I should come up with more interesting topics I guess.
For the last few months, I’ve started several FTR posts but never finished them. Lots of different topics – Czechoslovak weapons exports, some new stuff that I found out, some thoughts about the gaming industry in general (and how I am every day genuinely amazed it actually works) – but I never finished any of them because the truth is, when you write for a living your whole day, you don’t really feel like doing that every evening as well and for the last three and a half years, I gave Armored Warfare 100 percent of my time because I just can’t split my attention to more projects and I don’t really want to be in the same situation I was when I was writing FTR – to do something I didn’t enjoy for a living only to put my energy into my hobby.
That doesn’t mean I didn’t keep an eye on what’s going on around tanks in general or in World of Tanks, mostly through Rita’s blog – or perhaps I should just say “the blog” since Rita doesn’t seem to be working on it anymore. Can’t blame her really, everyone gets burned out eventually. I know I did. But, in the end, WoT and everything around it is more of the same – the novelty’s gone it seems with the things being introduced are more of the same. Well, there are the fake made-up Polish tanks and half of the Italians is made-up too, but hey, nothing we can do about it, right. As long as it sells, it’s gonna go out. And it will sell, I am sure the Polish players are dying to play some awesome “Polish” tanks, even if they didn’t actually exist. That’s how this stuff goes.
I am speaking only for myself but actually finding solutions to tanks or arguing within the previous World of Tanks historicity constraints was the main part of the thrill for me. Now that they can just make shit up, meh.
I was fairly interested in the Excalibur development for two years now or so (yes, we knew about it for very obvious reasons) but things being the way they are, there seem to be a lot of parallels between it and Armored Warfare. I wouldn’t hold my breath – if it launches at all, the team that takes over might be in a very difficult position. But who knows – Wargaming these days is very different from Wargaming back when I started with World of Tanks. God, that was a long time ago, 2011 I think? Time sure flies.
Maybe they’ll just pour so many resources at it that they’ll fix it, although judging from the leaks… speaking of which: I am guessing it was some disgruntled WG Seattle employees? Otherwise they wouldn’t go to that other joke blog first… AW parallels, AW parallels everywhere…
Other than that, not much has changed. It feels like those three years went by in a blink of an eye. Honestly, looking at some of my old links, I feel I could just drop everything and restart FTR if I wanted to. I don’t for the reasons mentioned above, but some things remain the same, don’t they.
Got any pet project ideas?
Oh yeah and I am looking for someone with access to ISU-122/152 parts. For reasons.
Honestly, I thought of writing something intellingent here about how this year was and how the next one is going to be, but I can’t bring myself to do anything these days. Wrote a few sentences, it sounded like total whine, deleted them.
Anyway, to all of you who read this, three years after I stopped writing about WoT, I wish all the best in 2018. Thank you for reading this blog, thank you for sticking around. Who knows? Perhaps 2018 will be the year of great revival, in more sense than one, and we’ll start meeting regularily once again on these pages. After all, of six years spent around tank games, writing is what I enjoyed the most.
Epocha (“Epoch”) is a new Russian turret system, armed with Kornet ATGMs and… a 57mm hybrid between autocannon and a grenade launcher. Basically it’s apparently a grenade launcher with long barrel, a crossbreed between high velocity 57mm (that light chassis couldn’t handle) and low velocity 100mm.