Hello everyone,
here are the new vehicle statistics for EU server for last 4 weeks, courtesy of Edrard.
And for comparison, these are the statistics for RU server.
Hello everyone,
here are the new vehicle statistics for EU server for last 4 weeks, courtesy of Edrard.
And for comparison, these are the statistics for RU server.
Incoming nerf on high WR?
M41, maybe, the rest seems fine. But it’ll take some more time, I guess.
Yeah the bulldog is prob gonna get the waffentrager treatment and have some rounds removed from its auto loader / rof decreased a bit on the non autoloader top gun. I think most of us are still surprised they didn’t do it in CT.
decreasing autoloader rounds will actually make it better since it means faster reload – currently the amount of rounds per clip is too much and the reload is too long (which is bad, not something that makes it OP).
You have to take the players winrate into account too.
Just look at the 13 90 and WZ-132 stats, which are available for longer time and many not so good players play them.
13 90 has been nerfed before though.
LOL, Russian noobs, lower winrates almost for all tanks :P
Buff those LT’s!!
Take into account the fact, that there are much more active players on RU cluster, than on EU.
It’s not that (still it is just a scale). It is about gameplay. Russians are crazy rushers, we got more passive gameplay. So our scouts can be more effective, with rush type of players scouting is not that needed like with passive type of players.
That’s your pure fantasy. There is the same stay-behind-the-bushes metagame in RU, more or less equal EU.
But you absolutely right about scouts. Average tomato scout on RU is hmm… just pathetic.
So what? They probably have equal percentage of noobs and pros of those MORE players.
More players amount makes statiscal WR curves smoother, right?
Bullshit. I can counter your statement with the fact, that there are (proportionally) way more clans on the RU servers, as well as all that e-sports crap and league is developed there much better than on the other servers. There are just more competentive players there (I am not saying better players, just those whose goal is e-sports). There was a reason why thr Russian dudes won the WG EU Finals (it still sickens me that they allow these commies as representants of Europe, while they have their own servers).
You are probably correct about more competentive players, but average tomatoes don’t want to compete. I don’t know what they want actually.
I just wanted to say, that smaller game audience means higher average skill.
Is it just me being blind or are these just not sorted by anything? Can you at least get them sorted by win rate or something?
Oh never mind, it’s tier first then WR. doh.
Wait till the reds start using them…….
wz 132 is under power bad players pick med t34-1 /-2 line if they want get to the wz 120
if wz 132 wod be on tier 7 just with 100 less hp it would be ok when you compare wz to other t7 lights now lttb is actualy BETTER and its tier 7
statistic on eu teling about this themselft
I got not so bad games on it, but still bad wr, dunno.
@ macmac
The f are you smoking?
WZ 132 is the best non autoloader T8 light tank, it’s more than great, RU 251 isn’t even a close second.
The WZ132 is borderline OP.. fook knows how people do so bad in it…
Fast, manouvrable, decent gun and bouncy turret…
An LT that can circle strafe and rape half the top tier tanks… and any non-turret tanks may as well suicide unless they can ram you hard enough into a wall..
hahahhahahhhahhahahaha “BORDERLINE OP”, “BOUNCY TURRET”.. are you fucking serious? :D
RU 251 outclasses WZ in every way except of armor (basically your whole tank is overmatch zone), traverse and probably camo (didnt check). So please, cut the shit :)
Never had bound on wz132
They just don`t use 85 mm on it…
ARSE!!
Looks like my T37 does fine, purple (just) with 51.7%
… however my Bulldog is terrible.. blue (dead centre) with 45%, although apparently I’m only 17 more dmg on average off being purple ..(?)
where do you pull off these number from? “I’m only 17 more dmg on average off being purple” ?
VBAddict says that I need to up my average dmg to get purple by only 17 per game…
..despite the fact that my actual WN8 in the tank is only half way up the blue scale..
Thats why I put the ? in… I know dmg accounts for 70% or more of the WN rating but that doesn’t make sense…
Stats Mean Nothing™
*edit* I need a fraction more kills as well…
according to VBA, WN8 consists of;
Bulldog ————— T37
70% Damage ——- 70%
17% Kills ————- 21%
2% Spots ————– 3%
7% Defence ———– 0.5%
4% Win —————– 5.5%
(well.. for my 2 tanks… YMMV)
Why is the KV-1S/KV-85 split on the list, but not the FV304? It was nerfed because it’s WR was too high, so is that dropping now?
Because nobody needs arty in the game
new lights are better than the older ones, but still they don’t need nerf, buff the others instead. people dont drive lights a lot, and i rarely see tomatoes in ltb or bulldog..
Doesnt work like that, if some tanks overperforming according to stats, they will never buff the “older” tanks. If that was true, 90% of all older tanks would need to be buffed to the new ones, and in time that would even out the WR.
Nothing surprising. Not only are they mostly played by unicums, but they also vastly outperform the old lights.
The 13 90 and T71 are barely able to compete. The other lights are completely screwed over.
How? The t71 is at least on par with the M41 (one has more shells per clip, the other faster reload. Both can be of use depending on situations). Atm the biggest problem’s that its just to early for any conclusion on stats. Most avg players will still be leveling their way to the new lights (at least those you need to pass one or more new tanks for). I would say wait till 9.5 before expecting any big changes.
No.. T37 and Bulldog (not played new T49) are borderline, if not totally, OP..
Granted, you need to play them in a particular way, and it takes a certain skill to get the best out of them, but play them right and they can rape the be-jesus out of anything except tanks with 150mm armour all round… They actually need 2 or 3 different playstyles in the same game, map dependant…
The autoloader Bulldog is a baby Bat Chat… I can’t wait until some mates get them and we can wolfpack it… should be hilarious hearing the screams of OP HAXXOR!!
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I think of WG wants to improve light tank gameplay they will leave them a bit OP compared to other classes.
I’m working on the T37 now. It is nearly the pre-patch Chaffee, doesn’t have quite the nimbleness of the old Chaffee. However, it has more hit points, a better gun, and better matchmaking. It is a beast in tier 7 games, which it seems to get into on a regular basis, as opposed to the old Chaffee, which was just happy not to see tier 10s now and then.
Give the new light tanks a year on the live servers. WG will come up with a new flavor of the month (for revenue purposes) and nerf all of the new light tanks.
why no NA server stats? I want to know the stats too..
And where is Buldog? Its too OP for beeing here? Winrate 55% or what? Buldog and LTTB are rly OP by me
M41 Bulldog
RU server 53,18%
EU server 53,46%
US server 52,26%
Isn’t the criteria WarGaming uses for nerfing a tank when it’s win rate is above 51%? Even before seeing this I knew EVERY one of those new scouts had an incoming and well deserved nerf.
Guarantee they will wait 2-3 Updates from now once enough people have wasted real money converting xp to get those scouts then they will get nerfed.
The principle on which the statistics are collected?
Tier, Win%?
Did not understand.
Understood.
This new tanks.
why do you idiots think win rate is a good determiner of tank imbalance?
Baddies always play the most OP tanks and bring the stats down.