Insider Talks: South America Cluster, Havok and more…

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Hello everyone,

a bunch of info from the Insider. As usual, it comes from communication with various developers, so take it with a grain of salt. Still… interesting.

- developers are considering creating a South American cluster either in Argentina, Mexico or Brazil (Mexico is unlikely, as they have good ping to NA servers), but in order to do that, they want to see further South American player increase. The amount of SA players has been increasing steadily for the last two 3-month cycles.
- as confirmed earlier, ISU-130 will be given out to (Russian) staff as a gift tank, but there is also a chance of it appearing on other servers if there is enough interest
- some developers started studying track physics, specifically the element of detracking a tank in order to improve its visual effect using Havok
- SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.”
- Havok will not look like the IS-4 preview video, where everything on the tank shaked and rocked, when it is released – that’s the final goal, but the equipment falling off from the tank and something called “volumetric damage” (whatever that is) will be released gradually later, when the developers consider it optimized enough


- developerss found a way to make the server calculate certain physics without clogging servers too much, it won’t be needed to calculate tank “rocking” (hovering over small obstacles, that cause the tank to move its suspension springs, but not the tank itself), this is explained as such:

“as long as a plane (area) is at certain elevation, any small obstacles below certain speed that doesn’t make the tank change its Y,X,Z, plane (change its course, jump, fall or rock sideways) is not required to be calculated, this is being tested extensively. Tracks have many more contact points now but this contact points are “dead” until a “terrain check” is activated (this activates when an obstacle is high enough that the suspension can no longer “pass it over”) so a terrain check is activated and the server calculates, how much does the tank “rocks””

Basically, how I understand it: anytime you run over an object, that is high enough not to be compensated by the suspension completely, it will initiate a terrain check and at this point, the server decide, how the trajectory (path) of the vehicle changes, the server will also calculate, how much the tank will “rock”.

- one developer, commenting on the changes: “whoever whines the terrains are going to be worse, is full of shit, because its the same, all it changed was the way we want to display it”

83 thoughts on “Insider Talks: South America Cluster, Havok and more…”

  1. SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.”

    King is back!

  2. well, regarding what serb said. wt planes is superior to wowp, and wot is superior to wtgf.

    so, how is that, ”we make better games”?. why ”games”? it is only one.
    yeah, serb being retarded again, nothing new.

    • What do you want him to say?
      - Nah, They are right.. Our games suck!! * packing his stuff waiting to get fired *

      • you are full of shit Woras. Yes, tanks are better in WoT, and the difference in population is huge, but WoWp suck compared to WT, and have a tiny playerbase too in comparison.

          • There is no such thing as “WT GF” playerbase. It is just one game. Some players play only tanks, some play only planes and some play both. But there is no separation of the playerbase. Especially since in realistic and simulator mode planes and tanks can fight together.

              • Excuse me, can’t you get the message?

                WoT is a game of its’ own, designed around tank warfare.

                WT, on the other hand, is like Battlefield, where you can play a variety of vehicles. Ground Forces is just an add-on of it, not a game of its’ own.

                It’s normal to find Ground Forces add-on as a failure since it’s still having infancy. (Don’t argue about how WoT looked like in Beta, I’ve played Beta too.)

    • correct.
      WoWS will probably suck as WoWP and then we are left with their only single success, a single core game named WoT.

      in 1,2 years the game will die anyhow, how much can you play this game anyhow… no content being added

      • “in 1,2 years the game will die anyhow, how much can you play this game anyhow… no content being added”

        Lets remember what was said about WoT 4, 3, 2 and 1 year ago :)
        Also no content – HELLO, 9.3 IS HERE :D OPEN YOUR VIEWPORTS!

          • WT isnt a real opponent, AW being WoT copy is a real one.
            Provide data for much faster leaving and I wont call you an idiot, idiot.

            • woras you’re full of shit sometimes…
              WT is better than wot in everything save playebase, ULTRAREALISTIC SIMTANKS IS BETTER than arcade trash.

              AW will be shit because it’s the same arcade shit than wot with modern tanks instead of being a true modern battle simulator as it could be, imagine those glorious 5km laser rangefinder engagaments with modern stabilized gunnery!.
              glorious!, but nope, braindead arcade trash

              • ULTRAREALISTIC SIMTANKS IS BETTER than arcade trash.

                lolwut?

                Then Raibow 6 (old ones)/operation flashpoint were better than unreal tournament or q3a because the latter are “arcade trash”?

                WAT?

                Yeah, keep comparing apples with oranges…

              • @Guillermo Lovato
                This is why you are a Fucking Moron. Playing a Game is Totally based on someone opinion on how fun it is, If WT is not Fun for other people And WOT is, So be it. THEY LIKE WOT BETTER. Lets get back to the basics of Gaming, We game so we can have fun, Some find WoT better, Cool, I understand that, They like the Arcade Tank warfare better than Realistic.

                That being said some also like WT Better(Although ALOT less do). That is cool to because their opinion says, I like realism better.

                Personally, Im a WOT fan, Didn’t like WT. But do i go around trashing It? No because its a good game, And clearly you Like WT, And you shouldnt go around on a WOT based Site, and trash WOT, Because its a good game.

                Again this being Said, Serb Saying something like that, Makes him a fucking idiot i totally agree with you, They are both good games, it is just totally down to opinion.

      • As a WoWS alpha tester all I can say to this without breaking NDA is that WoWS will deliver the goods. It’s on the WoT track rather than the WoWP track. When it lands I’m guessing Gaijin will regret postponing their ships development…

        • I’ve heard some insider talk from gaijin that their ships are already ready for release into alpha or even pre-beta. But currently they diverted all energy to gf since they thought it’d have a bigger, steadier player base. Could be just rumors and me being full of shit, but thats what I heard.

    • never call SerB “retarded”. he’ll call in his black choppers. also, DO remember that he’s anti-arty-nerf. appreciate it for once, and pour your righteous fury on arty haters.

  3. - SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.”

    being not good on both promotional videos and game won’t net any game company success. Even if Gaijin rocks on pvs, and WG on games, they cannot come close to big companies like Blizzard Entertainment, Rockstar, or even Ubi$oft… companies whom make great promotional videos with an equally great gaming experience.

    WG should just learn at least from Bliz.

    • The irony is that Blizzard is now more known for PVs than actual good games now, right?

      Diablo 3 was shit for years, for example.

    • even their developer has this ” fuck you customers” attitude , this is some kind of Russian culture “I’m a moron, I’m the man” that will never get them the front seat in the industry.

      – one developer, commenting on the changes: “whoever whines the terrains are going to be worse, is full of shit,

  4. From what I gather from web (there’s a really small number of explanations, though), volumetric damage model seems like something, that considers the damage in regard to the whole volume (in this case of a tank), not only in regard to the point of an impact (which is called deviatoric damage). Don’t really know how this might get implemented – maybe HEAT and fragments possibly killing more crew members based on point of impact, but I think it would be something different.

    Also I could be completely wrong, science papers regarding this really are tough.

    • Probably metal bending from hits whether it be shells or other tank/objects.
      As it would stress servers way too much – could be purely visual for your tank only.

    • I’m guessing the “volumetric damage” is somewhat analogical with volumetric smoke. Instead of damage being just visible on a two dimensional plane like the current penetration holes (compare to 2D smoke sprites), it will have a spacial impact, such as bits and bobs falling off, metal bending and denting (compare to a cloud of smoke)

  5. SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.”

    SInce when WoT is a better game?

    • What is succesful for you? Does WoT look better? No. Does it run better, is better optimized? Hell no, WT pwns it here too. So what is successful? What is the definition? The market share can be used as one, and well, the general fun of the game, and here WoT is superior, because it applies to a wider playerbase.

    • Gameplay, simpler and much more efficient grinds ( WoT: You want Leo 1, you just grind Leo 1 line. WT: You want Tiger II? PREPARE TO GRIND EVERY SINGLE TANK BEFORE IT BITCH. MUAHAHAHAHA). No overpowered gimmicks such as artillery consumables.

      • I would rather grind thru a the entire tree and unlock most of the current part of the tree. than just grind 1 line. and considering you can get to the KT in WT in less time than it takes to grind to it in wot, and still unlock most of the tank’s…… you should get your shit opinion checked mate.
        oh yeah because the CGC is completely balanced. Since they changed the arty consumable in WT it’s much more balanced than what wot does.

        In term’s of Gameplay WT is superior to WOT.

          • really? then it’s amazing how they manage to have the best mmo air warfare game on the market right now.

        • WT’s GF gameplay is so superior that their GF player pool, after a brief spike during release, has slumped back down to about 50k.

          If the gameplay is so superior, why is no one playing it?

          • i count 50K players, hardly noone.

            and wot caters to brainless shitstains that don’t count as gamers, like farmville or those retarded facebook “games”

            i rather play with 50K PLAYERS than the millions of crab kurwa siema shit that is in wot

  6. “- SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.””

    What games? WoT is very badly optimized, its a joke. Most maps are corridors. It caters to the unskilled and bad players. WoWP and WoWS is garbage.

    WT has a good looking and well optimized engine and game. The planes part is nice and works well. Tank part is ok, but has a road to go to be good.

    Go and sit in the corner Serb, drink you bottle of vodka, share a tear while you look at your framed picture of Stalin and keep your delusions to yourself.

    • Now, this is the real comment.

      “King is back!” Yeah, and my ass is his minister of internal affairs…

        • I guess the thing is, no matter what opinion you have, market decided for you already. WoT is simply better game in terms of profits, which is the only thing that really matters for SerB or anyone in WG :)

          • Totally agree. WoT is the most profitable of them two, but that doesn’t make it a good game. This is because WoT cater to the bad players with no interest to learn or improve their skill or understanding of the game.

            • Lol logic of MStar… I wonder if he is a woman.

              I will now sarcastically use his logic to prove that shit is better than food:
              “Food is more profitable to the companies than shit. It caters to stupid people who eat food with no interest in eating shit or learning how to eat shit. I eat shit and I love it, clearly shit is better than food”.

              My god, the stupidity of that asswipe is staggering.

              WoT is a better game. 9 million players vs 50k? Yeah, tell me more about how WT is a much better game that nobody wants to play.

              Pathetic shit.

              • Your inability to answer in a normal matter is a true representation that you are a zilch.

              • WoT is better game. Still doesn’t mean it’s not deeply flawed in some of its elements and that its optimization is shit, literally. It has fun and addicting gameplay. Game as a whole is poorly produced.

              • go away fucktard.
                since when player counts tell when a game is good?, retarded imbecile.

                WoW has tens of millions of players and it’s shit, and always has been since day 0, wouldn’t touch that retarded mmo with a ten foot pole.

                player count only tells how many siemas your marketing people gathered, and wot aims at the lowest of the low.

                WG capitalized on being the first and only game of it’s type, WTGF is superior in all aspects but has the issue of being 3 years late to the party and aiming at a more “human with braincells” crowd, y’know, those who actually think and like reallistic DM and ballistics instead of stupid clickers

                • Most succesfull MMO ever is shit, according to random guy on the internet. Played WTGF, it was shit to me. Most people seem to think that. If its a better game for you, then good for you, go play it. Objectively, the better something is, the more people will like it. Also, the only “realism” in WT is when playing simulator or realistic battles, that no one plays.

    • completey agree.
      Serb is deluded fool who drinks his own kool aid and are in denial.

      better games, hahahahah fucking world of fucktardplanes says hello bitch.

      and wot?, catering to fucktards and kurwa siemas stronk game, fail arcade shit for mindless drones.

  7. Whatever will happen to wowp and wows the World of Tanks is like WoW(world of warcraft) will never die and that’s it, it’s just good even despite that retarded lack of optimization and one core.

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    • I hate that idea. I like to play with different people and average 150 ping isn’t that bad.
      If they force us to change server, i would be very dissapointed.

      • they can’t force you to play on a server, it’s a choice just like EU/RU/US server, maybe they’ll implement a one-time transfer.

        but fuck it i dislike everyone in the area and rather cut my balls than have to play with all the annoying self-entitled feeding pricks in south america.
        and everyone speaks spanish save fo the brazillians and they’ll start talking their horrible language and this will be just like the EU server

        • Sadly i agree with you. In my experience in various games, Brazilians are awful teammates.

          Besides, the player base in SA are mostly teenagers, so that would be a very bad move from WG.

          • “and everyone speaks spanish save fo the brazillians and they’ll start talking their horrible language and this will be just like the EU server”

            Racism much?, since when Portugués is a “horrible language?”

            oh never mind, you must be the kind of “English language is for master race” kind of people.

            You Bigot.

  10. Mexico is in NA, so it’s quite understandable that they have a good ping to NA servers…

  11. “- SerB on War Thunder videos: “They make good videos, but we make better games.””
    HAHAHAHA HAHAHAHA aw shit fucker made me laugh so hard, they’re in fucking denial, world of fuckplanes says hello bitch. And stupid arcade tanks also says hello

    hahaha HAHAHAHAHA aw shit reading deluded fools always make my day

    • Reading you made me think you are some sort of lunatic

      however your reaction is just as SerB would expect, after all, he is the master *seer* troll of Belarus, and you, you are just an interwebz person.

      However, ill take your grain of salt, but its not salty enough