Hello everyone,
this video was shared by The_Challenger on his Facebook. In it, The_Challenger has a look at the Hetzer. It was since uploaded to the page.
I have following things to add to the video:
- well, first, that’s not even a Jagdpanzer 38t in Munster, it’s the post-war G-13 (different gun, engine, other smaller things)
- at cca 1:04, the TD is incorrectly market, it’s a Marder II, not III
- “Hetzer” was not an official name or even soldier used name, but a post-war mix-up according to H.Doyle, not sure why this stuff gets repeated. The “chaser” translation – first time I heard that (usually it’s translated as “agitator”), but I asked a native German speaker and it’s apparently somewhat correct (in the “courser hound” sense)
- Panzer 38t was – as far as I know – never designated as a medium tank, it was always a light tank or simply “tank” (Panzerkampfwagen). In Czech service, 38t was known as “Light Tank Model 1938″.
- 7,5 PaK 39 was solid, but the gun you are looking at is StuK 40 converted to look like PaK 39 by removing the muzzle brake. So inside, you are actually looking at the post-war modification.
- this includes the aiming device and the instrument panel camera shots, those were refitted Swiss devices, not the original German ones (so again, sort of pointless to make a picture of)
Overall, it was good – I guess. Why on earth would they make a duplicate video of (much superior) Chieftain’s Hatch video on Jagdpanzer 38t (can be seen here – part 1 and part 2), I have no idea (unlike Challenger, Chieftain actually had a real restored Jagdpanzer 38t to describe along with the original engine. Very, very rare.)
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In this post SS rekt The_Challenger, by exposing all the crap he said in the video.
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Agreed
xD They look so similar. I’ll make my own tank show. It’ll be called ‘The Conquerer’ or ‘Inside the Conquerer’s Hatch’
Look at this, half destroyed Hetzer in military museum un Warsaw:
http://imageshack.us/a/img31/8387/xonl.jpg
That’s only HALF wrecked?
well, I’d wager that if the gun still worked, they could still fire at anything stupid enough to go in front of it.
Yeah…. just critical hit :D
0 damage hit :P
Oh no!!! They got rid of “The Chieftain’!!!
I love how rustled you are when it comes to Czech tanks SS.
Czech yourself before you wreck yourself :D
Well I don’t like when ANY WG videos post crap. It’s just that I happen to know more about Czechoslovak tanks than any other ones :)
Actually its german. Trolololo!
I doubt it could penetrate the front of a IS-2 with 120mm of sloped frontal armor…
Haven’t seen the video, but there were versions of IS tanks around that had less armor frontally, where it would be possible for a Hetzer to penetrate it.
Here is a picture of it in czech Lešany Museum:
http://i.imgur.com/hFReCx8.jpg
I’ve never been that impressed with The Challenger’s videos. He seems like he really doesn’t know what to do with his hands, doesn’t have the sense of humor that the Chieftain has, and had the crew positions wrong in his JagdPanther video …
I recall reading somewhere that it didn’t use the 38t chasis at all (converting the hull). It was build somewhat from scratch based on the 38t’s construction, hence the looks. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Some were brand new, but some (early ones) were conversions AFAIK.
- “Hetzer” was not an official name or even soldier used name, but a post-war mix-up according to H.Doyle, not sure why this stuff gets repeated.
Through the media people are programed that way, when heard over and over again becomes truth.
Agreed.
In soviet documents this vehicle also called Jagdpanzer 38(t).
Also, G-13 – not swiss index. It’s index of BMM/CKD, first time used in 1945.
http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com/1654287.html
He should come to Poland, we have here real wartime Jagdpanzer 38t restored to running conditions.
This video is very old. I watched it months ago. I think it was made before the Chieftain one, I may be wrong though.
That’s odd, because they only just uploaded it. Are you sure?
You were confused with Richard The challenger and Cheftain Hatch Video mate
Ah…
- “Hetzer” was not an official name or even soldier used name, but a post-war mix-up according to H.Doyle, not sure why this stuff gets repeated. The “chaser” translation – first time
I do recall that there was one unit that did use the name Hetzer for their Jagdpanzer 38t, I don’t remember which unit it was though.
Don’t really want to rave on The_Challenger. He seems like a decent chap, and quite knowledgeable at that.
But… The Chieftain is just so much better at these videos. He’s very thorough and is quite a natural entertainer in front of the camera as well.
Both the Chieftain and Challenger seem to have their own distinct style. Challenger seems to talk more about the vehicles and their history. While the Chieftain takes a much more hands on approach and gives you an idea about how everything worked. Chieftain seems to have a much better approach, Like, “Hey, we got a tank, lets start messing around with it!” While the Challenger is more like, “Hey, we got a tank, lets blah, blah, blah, about it!”
I don’t know about the Challenger but it’s because Chieftain is/was an actual tanker in real life.
So is the Challenger. It’s just some people have a much better screen presence than others.
I’m also an ex-tanker, but would be absolutely dreadfull at this sort of thing.:P
Panzer 38t was – as far as I know – never designated as a medium tank, it was always a light tank or simply “tank” (Panzerkampfwagen). In Czech service, 38t was known as “Light Tank Model 1938″.
I recall reading that Pz38(t) went into german service as sort of Pz III replacement, it was, according to this book, officially called Pz III (t) in documents. Maybe this lead to confusion and designating it medium tank. The book is titled “Niemiecka broń pancerna 1939-1945″, by Zbigniew Lalak and Dariusz Jędrzejewski.
That’s a nonsense I am afraid.
unlike Challenger, Chieftain actually had a real restored Jagdpanzer 38t to describe along with the original engine
If you’re refering to the jagdpanzer 38t inside the hatch episode, then he also was describing a G-13. He made it quite clear in both parts of the video.
Well, at least the video editing crew were smart enough to put a popup about how its not the gun they said it was…now if they would only have mentioned that its a Swiss G-13 instead of a real Jagdpanzer 38(t)….
They made this video because you should never see contents on other servers, as corporations doesnt understand the internet.
Looking at the fuse-box text lables, they are also in French (Swiss). Is that because they are refitted?