72 thoughts on “T-34-3/Type 59 comparison, T-50 8.7 changes”

1. Hahaha 34-3 is a complete joke overall. More like T7 stats.

   • Compared to KV-5 gun, its good.
     When the fuck they buff KV-5 to 180+ pen……

     • what about cutting down those R2s?

     • It really doesn’t need a pen buff…

       • It most certainly need a pen buff, since 8.6 everyone can hit those tumors now.

   • It’s got much better armor than the T-34-2. Don’t think it may get limited MM though.

2. They are just reminding us how Type 59 is OP x)

3. T7 stats? It’s simply a Type 59 that has shed armour for a far bigger gun with slightly less pen–but more than makes up for it with the ROFL-stomping HEAT round. I’d say it fits into the philosophy of Chinese mediums than the Type 59, which is just a stock T-54 with a different trim on the red star.

4. Not a bad tank if it has preferred MM, consider it as a support vehicle that is used for long range engagement and base defense when platooned with IS6/Kv5.

   • long range engagement, with 0,46 acc its suited for that for sure…

     • if you need to hitt a weakspot to pen simply load up a 300 pen round and the whole enemy tank becomes one :P

5. I do not see any reason to choose this tank over 112. Although mobility is the distinguishing factor from other tier 8 tanks, everything else just looks horribly wrong. It doesn’t fit the role of sniper, and it will have a hard time brawling with its 3 degrees depression. You might be able to utilize the subpar DPM as a flanking support. Prepare a Wetammo rack as well. Unlike 112, I wouldn’t buy this tank immediately; we’ll just have to see how it does when it goes live.

   • The main reason choosing this tank over the 112 would be it’s price(almost 2 times cheaper) and the needing of a chinese medium tank trainer for new players since type-59 dissapeared from shops.

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   Or does only the 1st click count?
   I could farm some cash for you. :P

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     • “He has an email”, you dumbass.

       • And I thought it didnt rhyme too well :D

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         • you know that Woras rhymes with dumbass? LOL :-)

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     Idiots like you are the reason people lose their adsense account.

     • Ok, didn´t knew that, but also didn´t perform that really.
       So me “Idiot” knows a bit more, again.

7. still better than t26e4 so i will sell that BWOASHIT and buy this :)

   • Imagine this: they dont change SP, you cant sell for gold, and therefore you stuck with it forever :D
     Maximum troll.

     • good one… NOT

       • if they don’t change i sell it anyway so i don’t rly care about it

         • But if you sell it without changes, you will just get credits for it

8. T-34-3 is a joke its worse than the type 59 in so many ways

   gun is even worse than the types yeah it may have more alpha but the aim time and accuracy is terrible

   type 59 has more than double the gun depression

   it has less armor (not to bothered about that)

   mobility is pretty much the same

   T-34-3 ammo will be 3 times more expensive because its the got the 122mm

   • How terrible, want realism? Join the army.

     • The T-34-3 is for experienced players who use high tier chinese meds. This tank is not intended to be idiot-proof or easy to use like the Type 59 is.

       • yeah, type is for Russians,
         T-34-3 is for Chinese

         • Yeah…t-34-3′s gameplay should be more similar to the one of the WZ-120, despite type-59 being the same tank(wz-120=type 59)

   • Well, its not really supposed to be able to compare to the Type because of how “balanced” it is.

9. Ammo capacity: 40 (34)

   So 122 mm shells are smaller then 100 mm :)

   Hahahaha

   • Rearrange inner space due to less armors to have more space inside?

     • Oh yes, difference in armor is so big :D

       • Have you ever say inside a tank ? Obviously not. A 100mm cartridge is A LOT smaller than a 122mm single cartridge shell. In fact, you wouldn’t even be able to load the 122mm gun with a single piece shell because its so large you wouldn’t be able to turn it into the breach in that turret. 122mm guns mostly used two-piece ammo, hence saving a lot of space since you could store shell and propellant separately and they didn’t took up huge space. Imagine a 122mm single piece shell a bit larger than an avarage adults leg, weighting 15kg, a 100mm is “only” as big as a mid-twenties arm. I shot a lot of 120mm single-piece shells and I tell you, even in the really spacey and large Leopard 2 it’s no easy job to get them out of the ready-rack and load them.

         • http://www.google.pl/imgres?imgurl=http://stranamechty.net/media/images/T-44-122.jpg&imgrefurl=http://stranamechty.net/Type59Intro.html&h=320&w=605&sz=52&tbnid=y3Q3yWzuqYQ41M:&tbnh=63&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__apL5HQFC7nFxnLxcfUBKlGXdm1o=&docid=owITNnXn8N80DM&sa=X&ei=yUkFUt6sJMSPtQan8oCgBg&ved=0CDIQ9QEwAQ&dur=391

   • …or the 100mm’s are unitary cartridges, AKA “kinda long”. The 122mm’s are split into two smaller loads which would presumably make it easier to cram a few more in odd nooks and crannies.

     • Would explain the longer reload. More travelling across the tank to get a complete shell.

       • More like the loader basically has to repeat the sequence twice before he can close the breech. But then again at that caliber unitary cartridges start becoming so large and heavy they offer starkly diminishing returns…

         • Pretty much all 122mm guns of that era used two-piece ammo. A 122mm single-piece shell is huge, and you wouldn’t even be able to rotate it inside the turret. Not to speak of the 15kg weight. Single piece ammo of that size simply wasn’t used in tanks, hence the as already stated long loading times since you had to take the shell from the ready rack behind you and the propellant from the tank hull racks

         • Well the Soviets *did* try unitary cartridge in the T-44-122. Didn’t work too well…

10. I’ve tried using the 122 mm 37-122JT on the T-34-2 for a bit, I have to say I didn’t like it at all, it’s more of a personal preference thing but I like my medium tanks with a reliable gun rather than a big alpha gun. I was thinking of maybe getting one but why would I get a T-34-3 in 8.8 when the 112 is coming out in the same patch?

11. Are you sure about the price of 7500 or is it just blind guess?

12. This is clearly a specialist niche tank for those of us who are going far up the Chinese medium branch. If you don’t like big derp guns with 3 degrees of gun depression, you don’t like Chinese mediums. PERIOD.

13. Why is nobody mentioning the terribad gun depression? -3 v the -7 of the Type. That is the major reason not to buy the T-34-3.

    • it needs at least -5

    • Chinese meds have terribad gun dep too yet people are successful with. Type-122 might be (not that) mini WZ-120 – -50 alpha damage, worse reload, slight armor downgrade but then preferential MM for a Tier 8 premium.

14. Oh finally a premium tank that’s worth getting other than the Type 59.

    Basically all the other Prem Tanks are a bunch of tards (especially Löwe, Super Persh, FCM 50t). Now this T-34-3 even tho not as OP as type 59, at least has 15hp/t and is a medium tank.

    I’m definitely getting this as a Medium Tanker.

    • Get on the test server now, buy a T-34-2 with the 122mm gun, and see if you like it.

      IF you do, you’ll probably love the T-34-3. If not, well…

      • You do know that the T-34-2 with the 122 is worst in every way compare to this tank?

        • It is, but its the closest comparable thing. Doing will with the T-34-2 essentially guarantees that you will do well with the T-34-3. The WZ-120 has excellent pen, decent accuracy, and decent DPM that the T-34-2 and T-34-3 don’t have.

          Doing well with the 121 and WZ-120 doesn’t necessarily mean that you will do well with the T-34-3. Doing well with the T-34-2 does though.

    • FCM 50t is a great tank. It is very good and very enjoyable in my experience.

15. T-34-2 with the 122mm HEAT gun is one of my all time favorite tanks.
    If they will nerf the 112 heavy awesome-tank too much, this medium might be a decent way to spend my SuperPershing gold…

    • Agreed. If the 112 gets nerfed hard this thing looks good to me.

16. Looks like a good tank. Not much of a money maker if you spam gold, but it won’t lose money either. 300 pen for HEAT. Hell yeah! It’s all I shoot in my Super P and I still make plenty of dough. My clan mates end up using a bit of gold in the IS-6 & KV-5 as well. I’d definitely trade my POS Super P for the T-34-3. Much cheaper than an IS-6 or 112.

    Question is…..want a medium trainer or a heavy trainer?

    • Imma gunna keep spamming this :)

      Make sure you even like the high tier Chinese meds first before buying this tank. It couldn’t possibly be more different from the Super Pershing [and not necessarily in a good way] and the T-34-2 and T-34-3 playstyle is VERY hard to pull off.

      I expect the vast majority of people who buy this thing to hate it. If you like the high tier, hard-hitting chinese meds and their terrible gun depression, you’ll probably love this thing. If you don’t, you’re probably going to hate this thing.

      The 112 seems like a much more user friendly, generalist vehicle. The T-34-3 is extremely niche-specialized.

17. WHY IS NOBODY CRYING WITH ME OVER THE LOSS OF RUSSIAN BIAS ON T-50??
    :( SU-26 looses 122, T-50 is losing its maneuverability, at least the KV-1S’s 122 is safe for now…
    Ready for KV-1 armor nerf?
    Sigh… I don’t like bitching, but wheres the fun in exploiting Russian bias for fun, if there is no more bias?
    Yay balance!
    Make all the tanks equal so the only change is cosmetic!
    Bitch post…
    Dont hate.

    • T-50 was always irrelevant, it was Le UFO 50-2 that annoyed people – and that one had its agility nerfhammered a while ago already.

18. Just another way for WG to milk the tits of the walking wallets…

19. how much it costs in gold ?

    • Read the 13th line

20. T-50 has been effectively neutered. Its HP to weight ratio as been halved. and it accelerates like a wet sail. T-34 can now reliably out drag me on the test server. The death of the “scout” tank is complete. After this, active scouting will be a thing of the past.

    • How terrible…
      From 43hp/t the t50 went down to about 22hp/t…
      OMG, they dared to give it about the same HP/T as all other tier 4 lights have…
      Oh how terrible, the T50 will handle now just like the other scouts…How terrible, of the horror, what a tragedy…

21. Forgive me. I did not know you were trained in the use of the Troll. -_- All 4 scouts are effectively the same now. This isn’t battlefield. It’s too harsh. Especially with the new top gun being Vt-42 with 80 pen. Tier 7-8 battles just got a whole meaning. If they are going to go through with this, at least get rid of the special MM. tier 4-6 would be great. If it isn’t obvious by now, WG has changed their minds on lights in general. “Active” scouting will now be nearly impossible with the rebalanced lights. German lights got deflated with a hammer and russian lights just got neutered. Next is the chaffee and i’m going to bet there will be a shit storm.

22. so the T-34-3 is just a T-34-2 with the 122mm on. interesting

23. currently have my t-50 all pimped up, should I sell it or is it still fun?
    what should i get instead?

24. If i havent unlocked the KV-1S, but hte T-50 exp gets moved to it, does it get unlocked?

25. For a price of 7500 im gonna buy it but if its 12k im not gonna buy and rather gonna buy 112

    • A tier 8 medium will never be 12,000 gold. Tier 8 prices really vary depending on the tank class. I’ve notice medium tier 8 premiums are in the 7500 range (based on the type 59 and super Pershing) and heavy tier 8 premiums are around 12,000. So I’m guessing the T-34-3 will be close to the type 59 and super Pershing price. It says the price up top btw.

26. How can one still be fast in T-50, when it is 1 ton heavier and it´s engine power nearly halved?
    Now the Leo might be the better scout, since its weight/engine power ratio is better than the T-50´s.
    Not bad! :D

27. I think it’s way stupid to make the t-50 not be able to drift. That was and I repeat WAS a good tank before they “balanced” it. now that tank is just another dumb scout that’s not worth the cash and exp. Thanks 8.7